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San Jose Taiko[edit]

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While previously deleted for G11, this time the page has been written in a more encyclopedic tone. Unfortunately, there is just not any coverage that I can find. BrigadierG (talk) 20:40, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Pledgie[edit]

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I'm unable to deorphan this article and upon closer inspection, the article doesn't seem to pass any of the points of WP:GNG. The sources are mainly self-published sources (WP:RSSELF), and the secondary sources are blog posts (possibly falling under WP:USERG), with the only news coverage being hyperlocal. Sources 1 and 2 are blog posts. Sources 3, 5, 7, and 8 are self-published blog posts (with source 3 being a Tweet). Source 4 is from KC Free Press, which seems to be a hyperlocal news organization (but I would say it's closer to a blog). Source 6 links to the topic's GitHub page. Sources 9 and 10 link to the home page to websites, so are not even sources for anything in the article. My research on this topic results in user-generated blog posts, hyper-local news coverage or original sources (such as their website or their GitHub). BlueSharkLagoon (talk) 20:09, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lisun Institute[edit]

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Stub article of a private school that has no in-depth reliable sources. Might not be notable. Sanglahi86 (talk) 20:03, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Stuart Bell (figure skater)[edit]

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. Google search turns up nothing outside of wikis and scoring databases. Previous AFD received zero arguments in favor of keeping this article that cited any evidence of notability. Bgsu98 (Talk) 19:47, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. No evidence of passing NSKATE or GNG. Dclemens1971 (talk) 20:44, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

University of Ghana Toyota Training Center[edit]

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Easily redirect to University of Ghana as there’s nothing notable about this centre yet. Fails WP:NORG or WP:GNG. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 19:39, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect. Not enough WP:SIGCOV differentiating it from University of Ghana. Dclemens1971 (talk) 20:39, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Eunice J. Buah[edit]

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Fails WP:NPOL and WP:GNG. Council of State members are not inherently notable and there’s not enough source to establish GNG. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 19:34, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Zandré Jordaan[edit]

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I am unable to find enough coverage of the subject, a South African rugby union player, to meet WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. All I found was a few sentences here and this press release. JTtheOG (talk) 19:23, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Ecko Miles[edit]

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I do not see enough evidence to establish WP:NMUSICIAN. Some sources are unreliably having a close connection to the subject, some are WP:ROUTINE coverages announcing founding of Daed Empire, most are PRs, announcing collabo or music release, etc. Fails WP:GNG in a nutshell. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 19:20, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Ivann Espag[edit]

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Rugby BLP that fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. I am unable to find anything approaching WP:SIGCOV. JTtheOG (talk) 19:09, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Caemorgan[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG, no clear notability. Pretzelles (talk) 19:07, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Cora, Washington[edit]

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This was a declined PROD. The third source (forte) is just a list of post offices, and doesn't provide proof of population center since many post offices were in rural areas, and had names that weren't always the same as the place. GNIS (source 1) is unreliable for classification of towns. The second source provides 3 refs for this "town" [1] [2] [3]. Those sources don't mention a town of Cora, but a post office called Cora. Further research shows that the Cora post office serviced the Upper Big Bottom area of Lewis county [4](see pg 253). A newspaper article from 2002 further stated that it was a post office (look down toward the bottom of the first column) [5] James.folsom (talk) 00:51, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per the lack of valid sources describing this as a community Claire 26 (talk) 01:12, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete per nom; sources just show this was a rural post office, and there is nothing at the site now except a "Cora Bridge". WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 02:47, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep but with rewrite/reclassify see the Talk:Cora, Washington page for sourcing on Cora that I was able to find (I'd paste it here but it's fairly long); to me this was a community though not large and seems to have existed in strength from the 1890s to maybe into the Great Depression. Founders were family that began Claquato, Washington, so there's some connection there. Obvious that no formal community exists now so my proposal is to rewrite/reclassify the page (rather than deletion) claiming it to be an extinct community/ghost town.Shortiefourten (talk) 19:08, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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● Keep - Looking at google maps, there is still quite a few houses located at the location, so it would be considered an "unincorporated community", it is also part of the "Mary’s Corner to Upper Naches Valley" Tour.^[1] There is also a bridge a the location named Cora Bridge. (link to view bridge: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Cora+Bridge/@46.5348379,-121.7968308,748m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m6!3m5!1s0x5496da37cca18657:0xbecd0da45ab1a054!8m2!3d46.5348342!4d-121.7942559!16s%2Fg%2F1tx4p20y?entry=ttu) 😎😎PaulGamerBoy360😎😎 (talk) 14:34, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ "Revisiting Washington — Cora". revisitwa.org. Retrieved 2024-05-16.

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Keep - The Google map speaks for itself - it's populated, and there are least two businesses there. And the timeline in the article is well sourced. — Maile (talk) 20:53, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oliver Kizito[edit]

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Poorly sourced rugby BLP. Fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT as I am unable to find anything more than trivial mentions. JTtheOG (talk) 03:21, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak keep There's quite a lot of coverage here, in this brief profile, this, this, this and this. Whether when combined it's enough to reach WP:GNG I'm not sure, but with what we have and what is likely available offline I think it's worth a weak keep, although I'd suggest a redirect to Kenya international players if a list did exist. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 09:16, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete : Nice try, but lacks reliable references. Two of the references on the page are dead, and those who are live barely qualify as substantial. Of the sources provided by User:Rugbyfan22, the last one could contribute towards notability, but we’d need a few more, and in different sources for this one to pass. Would support redirect to a Kenya International Players list, if someone creates one. ANairobian (talk) 19:48, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Michael Makase[edit]

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Rugby BLP that fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. I am unable to find anything approaching WP:SIGCOV. Contested PROD. JTtheOG (talk) 18:51, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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W. G. Grace's cricket career (1864 to 1870)[edit]

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Too much cruft, must be deleted as per convention to remove the australian fanfict articles Pharaoh496 (talk) 18:24, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Have also afd'd every season article on here in this sidebar:

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Sichuanese Pinyin[edit]

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This is supposedly a romanisation system based on Pinyin that is used for Sichuanese Mandarin, which is the form of Mandarin Chinese spoken in Sichuan. However, I see no evidence that "Sichuanese Pinyin" actually exists as a concept outside of Wikipedia (and a few sites which have cloned the article or used it as a source over the years).

Three Sichuanese dictionaries are referenced on the article, none of which refer to the system as "Sichuanese Pinyin" (in English or Chinese), and they aren't even consistent between themselves over the systems they use (e.g. one uses ⟨ng⟩ to transcribe /ŋ/, while another uses ⟨ŋ⟩).

For added context: it's common for modified versions of (standard) Pinyin to be used to transcribe Chinese (dia)lects which don't have their own romanisation systems, so the fact that that's happened with these dictionaries is unsurprising. However, for "Sichuanese Pinyin" to exist as a separate concept, you would expect (at the very least) to find multiple sources using the same system, all referring to it by that name (e.g. Cantonese Jyutping, Hokkien Pe̍h-ōe-jī, or even lesser-known systems like Hainanese Bǽh-oe-tu). That isn't the case here, so it cannot be anything other than original research. Theknightwho (talk) 18:22, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I also found r and th as variants for [z] 如. No response to my {cn} tags in January, though in itself that doesn't mean much. — kwami (talk) 18:33, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps instead of deletion we could rework it and move it to Romanization of Sichuanese, which would also entail folding in the Sichuanese version of Latinxua Sin Wenz. I think it's fine to mention the systems used by different dictionaries; I just don't think we should be implying it's a unified system with the name "Sichuanese Pinyin", or that it's in actual use more generally. Theknightwho (talk) 19:13, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Verwurelter[edit]

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honestly, this article doesnt really pass WP:NOTABILITY. Almost all sources are primary and also a couple are advertising Luxembourgish foods along with the fact that most of the article is either not about the food or about the recipe. Probably gonna get no support but still 48JCL (talk • contribs) 18:20, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Battle of Monastyryshche[edit]

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A poorly written article, devoid of reliable sources. In addition, the language is very engaged and one-sided. Marcelus (talk) 18:16, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Abdulellah Jerman[edit]

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Played 6 games at professional level about 10 years ago and then disappeared. The article is a stats stub and doesn't demonstrate a passing of WP:GNG. The only sources that I could find were trivial mentions in Hihi and a forum post in Al Iraq. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 18:12, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found please ping me. Giant Snowman 19:59, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ziyad Al-Mutairi[edit]

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Stats stub on a footballer that played 30 mins of professional league football 10 years ago and then disappeared. My Arabic searches failed to yield anything about a footballer of this name and only gave me some coverage on a fencer of the same name. No evidence of meeting WP:GNG or even WP:SPORTBASIC #5. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 18:02, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found please ping me. Giant Snowman 19:59, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mohammed Al-Abdooli[edit]

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Made 6 appearances at professional level before disappearing. This article is completely lacking in decent sourcing for a BLP and WP:GNG doesn't seem to be met. The best source that I could find was UAE FA, which only mentions him once in passing. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 17:56, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found please ping me. Giant Snowman 19:59, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Abdullah Majrashi (footballer, born 1990)[edit]

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I can't find any decent coverage for this footballer that only played one professional match. My Arabic searches are yielding coverage about Abdullah Majrashi (footballer, born 1997) and Ali Majrashi but nothing about the one born in 1990. No evidence that this footballer complies with WP:GNG or WP:SPORTBASIC #5. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 17:45, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found please ping me. Giant Snowman 19:59, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

KLHU-CD[edit]

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Subject does not meet the GNG. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 17:45, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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French ship Gapeau (B284)[edit]

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The only reliable source for this fishing ship / unarmed military transport ship is a massive 10-book encyclopedia of all German warships no matter how small or insignificant. The other source, netmarine.net, is more of a large hobby site / semi wiki than anything else ("Si vous souhaitez compléter ces pages par des récits, illustrations ou autres documents, écrivez nous."). Fram (talk) 07:39, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. We have always kept commissioned naval vessels. -- Necrothesp (talk) 08:55, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- No, we haven't, and is in any case not a reason to keep things. "We keep because we always keep" is ignoring things like Wp:CCC and the stricter standards we have for establishing notability instead of assuming some inherent notability across many topics. Fram (talk) 09:07, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- You tried the exact same argument at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/USS LSM-316, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/USS LSM-422 and the like, which ended in redirection, with the closing admin noting the particular weakness of your argument. Fram (talk) 09:18, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  - So you discount my argument because you disagree with precedent but then cite a closer's remarks (which did not refer to my argument specifically, incidentally) as some sort of precedent? You've got to laugh! But, other than those numbered vessels, which are all pretty much the same, and some static accommodation barges, would you like to cite the AfDs where commissioned military vessels were deleted. Just so we know. -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:10, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
We have if they got more than routine coverage. A fishing vessel pressed into navy service isn't the HMS Ark Royal or USS Missouri, so it won't have that level of coverage. Oaktree b (talk) 15:58, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Reading the article for 2 seconds shows that it was requisitioned for service as a military ship during World War II, so stating fishing ship / unarmed transport ship, is technically correct but is a misleading strawman. I'm not arguing for or against deletion because I don't know if there is a separate method for assessing the notability of ships, but that statement just irked me. Curbon7 (talk) 09:12, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- I meant "unarmed military transport ship", otherwise my addition of "unarmed" would make little sense, but I agree that not including "military" was involuntarily misleading. I've added it now, I hope that's better? Fram (talk) 09:18, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  Much appreciated Curbon7 (talk) 09:21, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The vessel served with two navies and two commercial fishers. Although unarmed in French Navy service, she was definitely armed in Kriegsmarine service. If Netmarine is objected to, I can add from Janes All the World's Ships, which most definitely passes WP:RS. Mjroots (talk) 10:14, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Lloyd's Register is also a reliable source. Mjroots (talk) 19:42, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  - That Lloyd's mention is reliable, but it doesn't contribute to the topic's notability. See WP:SIGCOV. I'm familiar with Janes' usual entries, and while they're also reliable I'm not sure that will meet the SIGCOV bar either. Ed ^{[talk] [OMT]} 03:31, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Mjroots and longstanding practice. Kablammo (talk) 15:52, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to List of Vorpostenboote in World War II. I'm not concerned with the scope of Gröner's work, but I am interested in its depth of coverage. From the article's content, I'm guessing it does check that WP:SIGCOV box (in addition to all the other points at WP:GNG). Unfortunately, that's only one source, and Lloyd's table doesn't reach that bar. If there's a typical entry in Jane's Fighting Ships, I'm guessing that wouldn't either. As a result, I think this topic can be covered in the main Vorpostenboote list, or if needed that list could be split. (Per GNG footnote 4: "Lack of multiple sources suggests that the topic may be more suitable for inclusion in an article on a broader topic.") Ed ^{[talk] [OMT]} 03:31, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Non-notable boat/fishing trawler/transport. Wasn't involved in any heroic anti-submarine battle or any notable rescue at sea that would garner coverage. What's used for coverage is routine ship registry listings, tracing the vessel's career until being scrapped. Oaktree b (talk) 15:57, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Keep - Added a little more history from an additional source. - Davidships (talk) 14:31, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Unless actual WP:SIGCOV can be presented from sources (and at this point, I will need the actual text from the references copy-pasted here to prove it since they're inaccessible), then there isn't notability being shown for this article subject. And it's already well known that sources like Lloyd's Register are not significant coverage and just list basic info for all military ships that have existed period. The Dictionary of French Warships seems no better. In fact, all the sources used in the article seem very underwhelming on actual significant coverage (and is Netmarine.net even a reliable source?).

The closer should disregard any Keep votes above claiming "we always keep them", as this isn't an actual notability argument. It's the same sort of nonsense that was done with sports biographies previously and we finally forced that group to follow WP:GNG requirements. We are long past time to force the same requirements on the walled garden that Ships wikiproject editors have been constructing. Silver seren^C 18:03, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Malaal-e-Yaar[edit]

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I couldn't find sig/in-depth coverage except some ROTM coverage, so fails GNG. —Saqib (talk I contribs) 17:38, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Shaadi Impossible[edit]

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Fails to meet GNG as i couldn't find sig/in depth coverage such as reviews etc. All I could find is some ROTM coverage like this. —Saqib (talk I contribs) 17:34, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Blood purity[edit]

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"Blood purity" does not occur as a term in any of the linked articles except Fictional universe of Harry Potter (the original intention of the page as first written), and Limpieza de sangre: other entries fail MOS:DABMENTION. If rewritten as an article it would require sources, which it currently doesn't have and so fails WP:V. An alternative to deletion may be to redirect to Fictional universe of Harry Potter with a hatnote to other use(s). Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 17:27, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Karla Hernández-Mats[edit]

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Prod declined. Subject does not meet WP:GNG or WP:NPOL. She is a teacher and a leader in a local union who was chosen as a major party's nominee for governor's runningmate in 2022. It appears that the Miami Herald wrote up one in-depth piece on her during the campaign and there are other WP:ROUTINE articles relating to the election and the Crist ticket that do not cover her in significant depth. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:23, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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KHHB-LP[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG; two of the references lead to dead links. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 17:00, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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CIER-TV[edit]

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Subject does not meet the GNG. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 16:56, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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F-WWAI[edit]

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Once citations to unreliable blogs like Simple Flying and Planespotters were removed, there isn't any citation here and most of what I can find about this plane is user generated. I suggest it be merged into Airbus A320 family. Avgeekamfot (talk) 09:51, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - There are many sources I've found regarding this aircraft [6] [7] [8] 220.253.4.146 (talk) 22:48, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There's really not much information regarding the aircraft in [1] and the two other sources that you've given, [2] and [3] are only brief mentions of the aircraft. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 14:46, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge with Airbus#Products: There are good information tomorrow from the article. Merging to the manufacturer is the best option for WP: Articles for Deletion#Alternative to Deletion. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 11:39, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Francis Mensah[edit]

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Another poorly sourced BLP with no WP:SIGCOV demonstrated. The best that I can find are Abidjan 1 and Abidjan 2, both passing mentions in Ivorian media. The Feyenoord mentioned is the one in Ghana, not the Dutch team. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 12:02, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. I fixed the link to the Voice of America article, which seems pretty good. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 12:37, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for restoring it. I'm not going to withdraw this AfD yet as I don't think that it's enough on its own for a GNG pass. The coverage is Fifteen-year-old Francis Joe Mensah is one of the academy's best players, a lightning-quick, technically solid, left back, who can also play left wing. He predicts he will make it in Europe. He says he has no fear of failure. followed by a quote from the subject. I also think WP:YOUNGATH might apply given the age of the subject at the time (the coverage does not seem to be substantial and prolonged). I'd be interested to know what others think. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 12:41, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - no evidence of notability. One source on its own not enough. If sources are found please ping me. Giant Snowman 12:49, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Acoustic Station[edit]

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I'm struggling to see how this YouTube web series meets the WP:N for NMUSIC or even GNG. While there may be coverage in RS like this, this, this, and this, but these all seem to ROTM coverage - most probably paid / PR-related articles without any by-lines, which isn't sufficient to meet WP:SIRS.

While this coverage could contribute to establishing GNG, it alone isn't enough. Anyone who wants to argue for keeping this page should provide at least three best examples of coverage from RS to help establish WP:N. —Saqib (talk I contribs) 11:48, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Zinedine Booysen[edit]

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I am unable to find sufficient in-depth coverage of the subject, a South African rugby union player, to meet WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. The best sources I found were two sentences of coverage here and four-ish sentences of coverage here. JTtheOG (talk) 18:47, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak keep I think with the sources found and a few other bits in a search, it's close to a WP:GNG pass. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 09:22, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. A few independent-ish sentences interspersed within an interview are not enough for SPORTCRIT or GNG. JoelleJay (talk) 21:52, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: Since this article is verifiable per sources that the player exist and has appeared in few sources though not ready for WP:SPORTSCRIT, Why not redirect to Free State Cheetahs#Current squad. This will better save the total deletion of this game/sports I don't know much about but have seen many of the articles being deleted. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 05:41, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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I'm not a fan of redirecting to current squads, as he could well not be in the next squad (I think his contract has just expired also). Realistically with the change in guidelines we need lists for teams like this, but I don't see there being the interest (given there's only a handful of rugby union editors left) in creating them, given the time required to do so. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 18:14, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Faria Sheikh[edit]

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The subject does not meet criteria outlined in the relevant WP:NACTOR as well basic WP:GNG. No evidence indicating significant roles in notable films, TV dramas, etc. Merely being in a film or TV drama does not make one WP:Inherent notability. —Saqib (talk | contribs) 16:52, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: Seems to meet WP:NACTOR with multiple significant roles in notable series. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 12:24, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
But I was unable to verify if she had significant roles. As I said in my nom, merely being in a film or TV drama does not make one inherent notable. —Saqib (talk | contribs) 15:37, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note The creator of this BLP has peculiar editing history. I've raised concerns about it on WP:ANI. --—Saqib (talk | contribs) 17:54, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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*Keep as per My, oh my! (Mushy Yank).182.182.97.3 (talk) 15:43, 6 May 2024 (UTC) [reply]

This is akin to WP:PERX —Saqib (talk | contribs) 18:02, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I wonder why the IP copied all the formatting for Mushy's signature? ;) Must be a fan. // Timothy :: talk 12:14, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: BLP, fails GNG and NBIO. Sources in article and found in BEFORE do not meet WP:SIRS, addressing the subject directly and indepth, in a non promotional way. Sources in article are programming annoucements, promo, etc, nothing meeting WP:SIRS. BLPs require strong sourcing. // Timothy :: talk 12:14, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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WNXY-LD[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG; just two sources. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 13:12, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge with WNYX-LD. WNYX seems to have some sources and common ownership that could be enough to not only justify keeping it from AFD, but the perfect article to merge into. --Danubeball (talk) 23:32, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Rusking Pimentel[edit]

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As far as I can tell, there's pretty much zero coverage of this person outside of the routine announcements, and NPOL doesn't extend to everybody working in the office of the state level politicans in question. Alpha3031 (t • c) 13:37, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep : I looked into it and found the following new sources which are independent and have significant coverage: [9], [10], [11]. This a notable subject and fulfills the WP:NPOL as well.

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LogFS[edit]

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Non-notable software that doesn't appear to pass WP:NSOFT. One source is a self-published announcement; the other is a forum post. ZimZalaBim ^talk 13:44, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Possible sources:

The book Embedded Computing Systems Applications, p. 451, at Google Books describes LogFS (for about 200 words) and compares it with other FFSs. This seems borderline WP:SIGCOV.
There's the news article LogFS: A new way of thinking about flash filesystems, at Linux.com; but as discussed at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 22 § Linux.com, this may or may not be a WP:RS. (Note that the article was published in 2007, before Linux.com changed ownership in 2009. This means later discussion of the site is less applicable, e.g. Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 52 § Softpedia Linux software reviews).
The paper CosaFS: A Cooperative Shingle-Aware File System uses LogFS as a benchmark for evaluating CosaFS's performance.

Honorable mentions:

The papers LOFFS: A Low-Overhead File System for Large Flash Memory on Embedded Devices, A Survey of Address Translation Technologies for Flash Memories, Transparent Online Storage Compression at the Block-Level, DFS: A File System for Virtualized Flash Storage, TrueErase: Leveraging an Auxiliary Data Path for Per-File Secure Deletion, and Introducing the Advanced XIP File System (presented at the 2008 Linux Symposium) mention LogFS, but only in passing.
The paper A Novel over Writable and Restoring Solution of Filesystem for NAND Flash supposedly mentions LogFS, according to search previews, and it does cite http://elinux.org/LogFS, but I can't access the paper itself to determine whether it's more than an offhand mention.

Dishonorable mentions:

The paper Transparent Log-Based Data Storage in MPI-IO Applications is about a LogFS, but it doesn't seem to be the same LogFS.
A search for "LogFS" will also turn up some mentions of "LinLogFS", e.g. LinLogFS: a log-structured filesystem for Linux, but these seem to be unrelated.

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Vette (Star Wars)[edit]

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It still feels like the only good source is [12] that. The controversy were mostly discussed about the game, similarly like Controversies surrounding Mass Effect 3 and not the character. It doesn't help notability about the character either, AND may be WP:UNDUE or whatever it is. 🍕Boneless Pizza!🍕 (🔔) 13:51, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge to the character list. As with the last AfD, most coverage about her is about a single controversy, and it feels undue to spin off into its own page. Still, I doubt this will reach a different outcome than last time. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 15:39, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Merge per Zxcvbnm's statement. MKsLifeInANutshell (talk) 07:40, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge per Zxcvbnm, as WP:ATD. Doesn't meet WP:SIGCOV but can be preserved in a logical place. Shooterwalker (talk) 18:46, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per Zxcvbnm's analysis. For the target, I would assume everyone above meant for it to be merged to Characters of the Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic series, as that was the target proposed in the last, No Consensus AFD discussion. Rorshacma (talk) 19:53, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fáilte[edit]

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Not sure if this violates WP:DICT (wikipedia is not a dictionary). While I see why we have Alba and éire, (Scottish Gaelic and Irish for Scotland and Ireland respectively) because it refers to a country, do we really need a dictionary for a specific world in another language? For anyone wondering, fáilte is the Irish word for welcome. JuniperChill (talk) 13:55, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak keep; make it more explicitly a disambig page. —Tamfang (talk) 19:22, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I would turn it into a DAB, as Tamfang suggests. I concur with JuniperChill that it is not appropriate to keep as a dictionary-like entry, but since there are three Wikipedia pages containing the word, a DAB may be appropriate. Cnilep (talk) 00:32, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am not sure how turning it into a disambig would work since the only other pages containing the word are Fáilte Ireland and Fáilte Towers. This may be an example of partial title match, but I am not sure if people simply refer it to 'Fáilte'. JuniperChill (talk) 10:06, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That's a fair cop. I won't be too sad if the page is deleted. Cnilep (talk) 04:46, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Battle of Ajmer[edit]

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There is no such a battle named "Battle of Ajmer" in any of the WP:RS nor any Historians named a battle as "Battle of Ajmer" between Mher tribe and Ghurids. The article body talks about a conflict between Mher tribe and Ghurids, whereas the infobox describes Rajputs as the belligerents. Neither from the source of R. C Majumdar, nor from Romila Thapar, I could even find a scattered line about this event. The actual event per cited is the prelude of Battle of Kasahrada (1197). The current content could be added into this parent article (edit: it is already present the background section). Fails WP:GNG, and not found any RS calling the event by the name of "Battle of Ajmer". Imperial ^[AFCND] 05:55, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Draftify or Very Weak Keep. The sources from Majumdar and Thapar, like ImperialAficionado I too could not verify or find on this Battle and would have opted for delete but the source from Dr Ashoka Srivastav from Department of history at University of Gorakhpur had me hanging from where the page got its attribution from. There is need for improvement on this page and some more detail that is missing or wrong about the battle, siege, and the belligerents. From Srivastav Belligerents were Mhers, many Hindu Rajas, Raja of Nagor, Raja of Nahrwala. It does not say Rajputs. More sources will help too. RangersRus (talk) 14:11, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom. Wikipedia is rapidly filling up with made-up Indian battles. Mccapra (talk) 21:22, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Kitulu Day Secondary School[edit]

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Non-notable institution and un-sourced article, a search returns nothing. Fails WP:NSCHOOL. Allan Nonymous (talk) 14:47, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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KJWY-LD[edit]

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Subject does not meet the GNG. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 16:37, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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NSA (basketball)[edit]

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Not one source meets WP:GNG criteria. Toadspike (talk) 15:33, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Kashaf Alvi[edit]

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I'm struggling to see how this TEEN meets the WP:N for WP:NAUTHOR or even GNG. While there may be coverage in RS as cited in the BLP, but these all seem to ROTM coverage - PR articles without any by-lines, which isn't sufficient to meet WP:SIRS. I would say WP:NOTJUSTYET. —Saqib (talk I contribs) 15:36, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. Sourcing isn't stellar but sufficient to keep the article under general notability. Cortador (talk) 16:47, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Cortador, So, are you suggesting that we keep this BLP even though we don't have enough coverage meeting WP:SIRS to establish GNG, but because he got some ROTM coverage? —Saqib (talk I contribs) 16:58, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  SIRS doesn't apply to people and has no relevance here. Cortador (talk) 06:21, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  Cortador, Noted. Are you willing to provide the THREE best coverage that you believe should meets GNG? —Saqib (talk I contribs) 09:40, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep meets WP:NAUTHOR. Teenage is not a disqualifier as we don't discriminate somone's abilities based on their age. We are an inclusive encyclopedia, that's why we have plenty of articles on such topics Category:2003 births. This in-depth article in Arab News is written by Saima Shabbir. The book has been reviewd in Dawn ([13]) and The Nation ([14]) by their staff members (when a newspaper writes "staff report" it is enough to prove the reliability). Wieles (talk) 22:31, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
And let's not apply guidelines randomly to the mix. WP:SIRS is for corporations/organizations. Wieles (talk) 22:34, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wieles, So, it looks like he's only authored this one book, which got some coverage in RS. Is just writing one book enough to pass WP:NAUTHOR? Seems like a pretty ROTM author. And it makes me wonder, if someone just writes a book and gets some press coverage on it, do they automatically qualify for a WP BLP? As for the coverage, DAWN coverage seems pretty ROTM to me. It's not sig/in-depth as required by GNG. And The Nation coverage is based on his interview, which also isn't sig/in-depth or even independent of the subject. Sure, they can be used for WP:V, but for establishing GNG, I'd say no. They also don't qualify as reviews of the book, as WP:NAUTHOR states work must have been the primary subject of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews. And just to be clear, I'm not suggesting he shouldn't get a BLP because he's a TEEN! —Saqib (talk I contribs) 00:06, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Nkawkaw Senior High School[edit]

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Nothing much to be notable. While I agree with WP:NSCHOOLS, "secondary schools are not presumed to be notable simply because they exist, and are still subject both to the standards of notability, as well as those for organizations." I can't find any WP:GNG or WP:ORGCRITE for a simple article. WP:SIRS already was not enough except for the schools 50th anniversary. A redirect can be kept though at List of schools in Ghana#N. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 16:21, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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EcoCute (Japan)[edit]

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This is a recreation/fork of EcoCute (old revision link) at a new title with unnecessary disambiguation. The outcome at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/EcoCute in February was to merge it to Air source heat pump. They should be re-merged absent a changed consensus to split the content back out into its own article, such as via a WP:SPLIT discussion or WP:DRV. SilverLocust 💬 18:26, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment We just did this one and it's back again. !Merge as suggested less than 6mths ago. Oaktree b (talk) 19:47, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I mentioned my position/opinion is on Talk:EcoCute (Japan), please refer.--Namazu-tron (talk) 07:01, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Note that previous AfD was closed as merge despite the fact that it appears one editors were advocating for keep, one (nominator) for merge, and one for delete: it seems more like no consensus to me. Appears to have some international coverage from fiz-karlsruhe.de that's already cited in the article. ja:エコキュート has lots of coverage including from Yomiuri, Mainichi, Kyodo, NHK, and more including an award from ja:発明協会. I also found this magazine featuring it. I would also rename to get rid of the parenthetical per WP:PARENDIS. DCsansei (talk) 10:52, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge Re-creating a page that was closed as merge, now with a spurious disambiguation, is not constructive. Dmoore5556 (talk) 05:24, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I understand the procedural point but that this AfD should still be evaluated on its own merits. I don't think a prior AfD with 3 !votes advocating for 3 different positions should prejudice this discussion. DCsansei (talk) 12:03, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I started the previous discussion but have only just now become aware of this one. Also Wikiproject Energy was on the previous article but until now this article had no Wikiprojects on this talk page. Is there any way you could automatically notify people who were watching the previous article? Chidgk1 (talk) 07:34, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: EcoCute is trademark with millions of units used in Japan, some number of units also used in oversea, hopefully more number in area other than Japan. Installations, Japan and oversea case study list Article context and external link shows reality. I had created article EcoCute in July 2008‎, in January 2024, nominated for delete, then merged to, but eliminated section EcoCute in Air source heat pump thereafter. EcoCute (Japan) is based on number of units used/working in Japan, so that this is eligible to be an article in fact with (Japan). As Generic trademark, no one nominate trademark Coca-Cola merger into Coke nor Jeep into automobile, neither Wikipedia® registered trademark neither. EcoCute is registered and generic trademark. I shall repeat once again:

Once an article A deleted and marge to another article B, even A redirected to B, anyone can edit article B include word A in context of article B, but long term in future, it is possible/happen the word A may disappear from B due to number of editing by many editor/user. No one able to guarantee such sad thing if article A is worthful. This is my understanding. This comment is in My opinon on 12:46, 7 February 2024. If this nomination be resulted as merge back to Air source heat pump again, or other, merge or delete nomination will be happened again and again. Independent article EcoCute (Japan) is much safer from delete/merge, and contribute CO₂ reduction with implemented efficiency. --Namazu-tron (talk) 11:06, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge: As I argued previously, if I remember right, nowadays this is not sufficiently different from other air source heat pumps to merit a separate article. Chidgk1 (talk) 07:11, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Question: As I have only now added projects to the talk page will they still be automatically notified of this discussion? Chidgk1 (talk) 07:28, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
~~Keep, again~~: History of EcoCute merged after discussion in to Air source heat pump as section, then section deleted/eliminated without any talk, then ECoCute (Jpapan) created. Now EcoCute (Japan) is on AfD/ Merged again. If resulted to mereged in this discuss again and again, can anyone garantee protect/not be eliminated section EcoCute or EcoCute (Japan) by Banners like SfD (Section for Detele) for discussion, KS (Keep this Section) or something else.

Following step 1) - 4) is the editing history.

1) EcoCute, First AfD - EcouCute AfD Discussion resulted as merge on 17 February 2024

2) Then deletedm and merged into Air source heat pump EcoCute deleted, merged as section and redirected on 18 February 2024

3) Sudden Deleted section EcoCute on 27 March 2024 from Article Air source heat pump without any talk/discuss.

4) EcoCute, redirect to Fresh article EcoCute (Japan) on 25 April 2024--Namazu-tron (talk) 11:44, 10 May 2024 (UTC)--Namazu-tron (talk) 12:29, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

While I agree with keep, note that you only get one vote so you should consolidate your argument into one section or re-label one of them as a comment DCsansei (talk) 12:05, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As far as I know nobody can guarantee that a merged section would not be deleted. I agree with @MrOllie that the section was too lengthy and only covered one product. However as this seems to have been very ahead of its time I believe it should be covered briefly in the air source heat pump article along with some other companies and/or products. Chidgk1 (talk) 13:04, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I deleted the section because it was a WP:UNDUE problem and looked like an advertisement for one company's product in that context. MrOllie (talk) 13:08, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pls See section of talk page of EcoCute (Japan), '''Manufactures of EcoCute in Japan.''' EcoCute is not one company’s products, all mfg./vender, equally competing in market with named EcoCute, product type of Air source heat pump, as article said, to identify, not confused with other type of Air source heat pump by both seller and customer. I would like all you here to review for my long opinions on other page/section.--Namazu-tron (talk) 15:13, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's a registered trademark. Whether they are manufactured directly by that company or under license from that company is a distinction without a difference. MrOllie (talk) 15:52, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Number of companies produce variety number of models, size, performance and sell/buy price and others. Minimum requirement is both Refrigerant is CO₂ and making hot water, it is named as EcoCute in fair markets. Telling/ display/ indication of word EcoCute in sales promotion is no advantage, it just shows merely type of heat pump, not such as gas nor electric heating.--Namazu-tron (talk) 05:10, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If some other companies and/or variety of products put on market in future, and is comparable or superior, than or equal capability to EcoCute reduce CO₂/ emission and Greenhouse gas, that will be a time to merge these as one type of heat pump in Air source heat pump sections.--Namazu-tron (talk) 07:34, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete and specifically Do not merge. Either it is notable enough for a standalone article or it isn't, and if it isn't it definitely should not be dumped into a general article - Wikipedia isn't a catalog, we should not be writing about individual product offerings in generic articles like that. - MrOllie (talk) 13:10, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: Top wording changed/edited today. As (The EcoCute is an energy-efficient, type of Air source heat pump and only for water heating as the single hot water supply system, not use for air conditioning or alike.) Millions units sold EcoCute use Air source heat pump, air conditioner use Air source heat pump as well, Refrigerator use Heat pump. Car use Engine. Even trade mark Coca-Cola and Jeep, all these has an article on Wikipedia here.--Namazu-tron (talk) 05:15, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: and SALT both this and EcoCute for six months. It is clear that the title-gaming author has no intention of abiding by the result of a merge in this AfD any more than they did in the previous AfD. Any additional attempts to circumvent consensus by title-gaming should be handled with a topic ban. Owen× ☎ 21:35, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
~~Keep + Comment~~: As of article version 05:15, 19 May 2024, JIS JIS C 9220：2018 in section “EcoCute machine basics”, it should be noted that no equivalent total system, EcoCute is 1: heat pump air sourced + 2: hot water storage tank + 3: supply with CO2 Refrigerant. Air source heat pump is describe step 1: only and functional usage is for air conditioner, bathing, underfloor heating and etc., and any conceivable use connecting to room air conditioning unit or to water unit or any unit for purpose. JIS C 9220 standards clearly defined/request associated hot water tank mandatory as single system. I am not sure standard for air source heat pump is, but sure that it may not defined/request associated hot water tank. My “keep” position is rationally with/based reasons, facts and differences.--Namazu-tron (talk) 09:05, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You've already !voted above. Owen× ☎ 09:19, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for quick advice. Noticed the rule.--Namazu-tron (talk) 09:27, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Many air source heat pump systems in Europe include hot water tanks. Certainly Ecocute should be mentioned in the Air source heat pump history section as it was so ahead of its time. It was a great pioneer but nowadays others have caught up. Chidgk1 (talk) 12:23, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A brief mention would not be amiss (like, one sentence), but making more than 1/3 of the article about Ecocute is far too much. MrOllie (talk) 13:46, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
TNT/redirect and consider topic-banning Namazu-tron from this topic due to apparent undisclosed COI. DCsansei has found some references that do include significant coverage of the subject in major Japanese publications such as NHK [15] and Yomiuri Shimbun ([16]). However, this coverage is exclusively negative, and the state of the article as written by Namazu-tron does not even begin to incorporate this information. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 15:56, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I, too, get the clear sense we're dealing with a COI/UPE here. The tendentious, unrelenting recreation/reversion pattern and the promotional tone suggest, at the very least, a strong POV. Rosguill, please ping me if you take this to AN/I or such. Owen× ☎ 16:16, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Katokhar, Ambedkar Nagar[edit]

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Found nothing per WP:GEOLAND as no census data and history found. Twinkle1990 (talk) 16:10, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Bongofari[edit]

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Apart from lacking sources to reliable sources, the article doesn't meet WP:GNG and WP:MUSICBIO. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 16:06, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Leigh Rogers[edit]

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level does not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. No senior level competition at all. Google search turns up nothing outside of wikis and scoring databases. Previous AFD received zero arguments in favor of keeping this article that cited any evidence of notability. Bgsu98 (Talk) 16:03, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - Fails WP:NSKATE Claire 26 (talk) 16:28, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Marilyn G. Rabb Foundation[edit]

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There is nothing online that suggests the organisation still exists. The Guidestar website (https://www.guidestar.org/profile/36-4416453#financials) has the following comment: "This organization has not appeared on the IRS Business Master File in a number of months. It may have merged with another organization or ceased operations. This organization's exempt status was automatically revoked by the IRS for failure to file a Form 990, 990-EZ, 990-N, or 990-PF for 3 consecutive years. Further investigation and due diligence are warranted" suggesting it may be defunct or merged. Very limited info on existing wiki page. Previous organisation website does not appear to exist. Need to find evidence to support notability or delete. Newhaven lad (talk) 16:00, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Baalveer 4[edit]

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References are just interviews. No in-depth found. Twinkle1990 (talk) 15:59, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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MartianCraft[edit]

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Fails the notability guideline for companies. Created by SPA. Maybe their app Briefs has some marginal notability (and that's a big maybe), but companies don't inherit notability from their products. Best source I could find – Teratix ₵ 15:57, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Newshouse[edit]

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Article has zero references (one dead link), and unable to find comprehensive, in-depth coverage of this specific Indian weekly newspaper. JoeNMLC (talk) 15:39, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: As per my checking, I found nothing about this news paper, the subject totally fails WP:GNG. It require multiple in-depth covarage from Independent reliable sources to establish notability. GrabUp - Talk 16:30, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: but I find it super funny that it says child appropriate articles.

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Space Micro Inc[edit]

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This article was created by an employee and may have been later editor by one or two other employees. It reads as promotional and there are no cited sources other than the company itself. Unclear this company is notable; we have no article on the company that bought it. -- Beland (talk) 15:34, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Vladlena Sandu[edit]

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A screenwriter and theater director who has directed some non-notable films and documentaries fails to meet WP:GNG and WP:FILMMAKER. There is no significant coverage in third-party reliable sources. Almost all currently cited sources are interviews, with a few being unreliable or merely passing mentions. GSS ^💬 15:34, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Back Porch Records[edit]

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Fails WP:NORG, was unable to find any significant coverage other than brief mentions. StreetcarEnjoyer (talk) 15:33, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Dynamite Obinna[edit]

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Lacks significant coverage in third-party reliable sources. Fails to meet WP:GNG and WP:NBIO. GSS ^💬 15:07, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Fails WP:GNG and nothing else to talk about here. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 16:21, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Michaud Affair[edit]

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This has been problematically tagged for over a decade. Seems almost entirely based on self-published primary sources. Has POV issues, and no clear evidence that this is a notable event beyond a news cycle. Wikipedia is not a newspaper or place to post personal interpretations. ZimZalaBim ^talk 14:54, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Kion de Mexico[edit]

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The seventeen years that the article on this company has existed as an unsourced stub exceeds the fifteen years for which the company itself actually existed. I would suggest merging somewhere, but only if sources could be found to support content to be merged. BD2412 T 14:29, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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KPAL-LP[edit]

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Subject does not meet the GNG. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 14:13, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Fails WP:GNG, I did not find any coverage in WP:RS. Cocobb8 (💬 talk • ✏️ contribs) 15:09, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Next West Bengal Legislative Assembly election[edit]

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WP:NCRYSTAL. Nothing about the election has been declared yet, no WP:RS are currently talking about it. Should be recreated closer to the election, once actual sources start discussing it.

There are some sources that vaguely talk about this election, but they're all in passing or in context of other elections - [17] [18] [19] Soni (talk) 13:50, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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KDEV-LP[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG; questionable sourcing. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 13:50, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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List of SEC men's basketball tournament finals broadcasters[edit]

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WP:NOTTVGUIDE applies here. Just another case of WP:LISTCRUFT to appeal to nobody but the small minority of the most ardent fans. The subjects are not described as a group, failing WP:LISTN. Additionally WP:NOTDATABASE and WP:ROUTINE. Of the sources per WP:RS; besides unsourced, a majority of those are WP:PRIMARY and dead links besides the YouTube posts, not offering anything to assert notability. Besides being by a banned sock. SpacedFarmer (talk) 13:45, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Next Uttar Pradesh Legislative Assembly election[edit]

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WP:NCRYSTAL. Nothing about the election has been declared yet, no WP:RS are currently talking about it. Should be recreated closer to the election, once actual sources start discussing it.

I've found some sources for this election, but they're mostly in passing, so I don't think an article right now is appropriate - [20] [21] [22] [23] [24] Soni (talk) 13:44, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Next Manipur Legislative Assembly election[edit]

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WP:NCRYSTAL. Nothing about the election has been declared yet, no WP:RS are currently talking about it. Should be recreated closer to the election, once actual sources start discussing it.

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Delete: Per nom. I saw this long ago and lost track of it, cuz I was going to nom if for same reason. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 13:44, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Next Kerala Legislative Assembly election[edit]

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WP:NCRYSTAL. Nothing about the election has been declared yet, no WP:RS are currently talking about it. Should be recreated closer to the election, once actual sources start discussing it.

I've found 3 sources for this election, but they're not in depth enough to require the article right now, imo - [25] [26] [27] Soni (talk) 13:40, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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List of Big East men's basketball tournament finals broadcasters[edit]

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WP:NOTTVGUIDE applies here. Just another case of WP:LISTCRUFT to appeal to nobody but the small minority of the most ardent fans. The subjects are not described as a group, failing WP:LISTN. Additionally WP:NOTDATABASE and WP:ROUTINE. Of the sources per WP:RS; besides unsourced, a majority of those are WP:PRIMARY, some including primary sources are dead links. one that isn't offering much isn't offering much to assert notability. Besides being by a banned sock. SpacedFarmer (talk) 13:37, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Next Assam Legislative Assembly election[edit]

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WP:NCRYSTAL. Nothing about the election has been declared yet, no WP:RS are currently talking about it. Should be recreated closer to the election, once actual sources start discussing it.

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List of Big 12 men's basketball tournament finals broadcasters[edit]

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WP:NOTTVGUIDE applies here. Just another case of WP:LISTCRUFT to appeal to nobody but the small minority of the most ardent fans. The subjects are not described as a group, failing WP:LISTN. Additionally WP:NOTDATABASE and WP:ROUTINE. Of the sources per WP:RS; besides unsourced, a majority of those are WP:PRIMARY, some including primary sources are dead links. one that isn't offering much isn't offering much to assert notability. Besides being by a banned sock. SpacedFarmer (talk) 13:34, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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KVDO-LP[edit]

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Subject does not meet the GNG. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 13:31, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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List of ACC men's basketball tournament finals broadcasters[edit]

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WP:NOTTVGUIDE applies here. Just another case of WP:LISTCRUFT to appeal to nobody but the small minority of the most ardent fans. The subjects are not described as a group, failing WP:LISTN. Additionally WP:NOTDATABASE and WP:ROUTINE. Of the sources per WP:RS; besides unsourced, one is a YouTube link, four are WP:PRIMARY and one is about the Championship Week. Besides being by a banned sock. SpacedFarmer (talk) 13:30, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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List of Big Ten men's basketball tournament finals broadcasters[edit]

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WP:NOTTVGUIDE applies here. Just another case of WP:LISTCRUFT to appeal to nobody but the small minority of the most ardent fans. The subjects are not described as a group, failing WP:LISTN. Additionally WP:NOTDATABASE and WP:ROUTINE. Of the sources per WP:RS; besides unsourced, a majority of those are dead links, two are forums and some are guides and WP:PRIMARY. Besides being by a banned sock. SpacedFarmer (talk) 13:25, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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List of stamp clubs and philatelic societies in the United States[edit]

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Most likely fails WP:NLIST, consists of 60% red links. WP:NOTDIRECTORY also applies, and I didn't find WP:RS describing this list besides third-party directories. Cocobb8 (💬 talk • ✏️ contribs) 13:23, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment The links I clicked on had no references at all, or none that would count as reliable sources. Didn't check all of them. Dream Focus 19:45, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

KUJH-LP[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG; merge with University of Kansas#Media. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 13:15, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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List of 68 Ventures Bowl broadcasters[edit]

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WP:NOTTVGUIDE applies here. Just another case of WP:LISTCRUFT to appeal to nobody but the small minority of the most ardent fans. The subjects are not described as a group, failing WP:LISTN. Additionally WP:NOTDATABASE and WP:ROUTINE. Of the sources that is not a dead link per WP:RS; one is WP:PRIMARY, one is a dead Twitter post, one is a media guide, and another is about the coverages to all 18 Bowl games. None of these are doing anything at all to help assert notability of lists like this. All the others are unsourced. Besides being by a banned sock. SpacedFarmer (talk) 13:07, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. List of broadcasters for a low level, almost unknown (I'd never heard of it) bowl game. Fails WP:LISTN and WP:GNG. Cbl62 (talk) 19:43, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

KJIB-LP[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG; questionable sourcing. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 12:37, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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WEON-LP[edit]

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Notable only on local level, Fox affiliation notwithstanding. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 12:26, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Lord Derby Cup 2023–2024[edit]

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Poorly made article, minimally referenced, out of date, inconsistent format with previous seasons on the topic. Mn1548 (talk) 11:46, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Elite Two Championship 2023–2024[edit]

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2023–24 French Rugby League season[edit]

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International Hobo[edit]

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The company does not appear to be notable. I was not able to find any reliable source covering it beyond pass-by mentions in interviews. OceanHok (talk) 09:25, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete, unable to find anything like a suitable source to prove notability, and there are none among the feeble refs in the article. The thing looks like a confection worked up by a paid editor or employee of the company, all fluff and no substance. Way WP:TOOSOON for an article. Chiswick Chap (talk) 13:10, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lois Lane (DC Extended Universe)[edit]

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I try again. Lois Lane is indeed an encyclopedic character but its counterpart from the DC Extended Universe seems to be irrelevant in a real world perspective. First thing first, this article does not meet the requirements of WP:NFILMCHAR: the character has appeared in three films, but not in a lead or titular capacity. Also, this iteration of Lois Lane does not have an extensive coverage. Redjedi23 (talk) 11:18, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Tomáš Chovanec[edit]

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Long-unsourced article of a Slovak men's footballer who mostly played in small football clubs before disappearing in 2019. I could only find a story of his transfer to MFK OKD Karviná, which is routine and not significant coverage. Under the keyword "Tomáš Chovanec", Google searches mostly find other men of the same name than this footballer, failing WP:V too. Clara A. Djalim (talk) 10:19, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Impericon[edit]

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Has been completely unsourced for at least 5 years now. Found no independent sources online. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 10:13, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Clearly fails WP:NWEB as there is no independent coverage about it. Cocobb8 (💬 talk • ✏️ contribs) 15:11, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jaan'nisar[edit]

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Fails to meet GNG as i couldn't find sig/in depth coverage such as reviews etc. All I could find is some ROTM coverage like this. Not to be confused with coverage of 2024 TV drama with the same name. —Saqib (talk I contribs) 10:01, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Asghar_Nadeem_Syed#TV_plays: Also see https://en.dailypakistan.com.pk/01-Dec-2016/jaan-nisar-a-compelling-drama-on-police-urges-reforms-in-the-vital-organ-of-the-state. Not opposed to Keep. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 18:36, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Anja Hirschel[edit]

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Fails WP:NPOL and WP:GNG. Subject currently doesn’t pass NPOL as city councilor, and is only contesting for a seat in the EU Parliament. Sources were insufficient to pass GNG. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 09:22, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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CAT:TEMP[edit]

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Not suitable for main namespace, has controversial history. Previous AfD was redirected to non existent category. Toadette^Edit! 09:11, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep or move to project space and redirect. I restored this page. It was a piece of project infrastructure which is linked to in event logs an enormous number of times and should not have been deleted in the first place. As with many of our other obsolete processes it needs to be retained and marked as historical. What is "has controversial history" supposed to mean? Regarding "not suitable for main namespace", please read WP:PNS. You could have used the talk page to propose converting it into a redirect to a project page rather than jumping straight to AfD. Also, you forgot to notify me. — Scott • talk 18:15, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

Arab conquest of Kaikan[edit]

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I see no point in keeping this article along with its parent article Umayyad campaigns in India, when there are no sources explicitly covering this event as "Arab conquest of Kaikan", the source cited in the lead for it nowhere mentions this event as the title. Another problem with orginal researched articles is their defined timeline, despite having no source for the hoax timelines the authors of these articles love to furnish their own preferred timeline of one, two or even three centuries. The article topic also seems to lack notability and significant coverage as there are many uncertainty and unknown belligerents. Based Kashmiri (talk) 08:29, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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List of Monday Night Football results (2010–present)[edit]

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Just another case of WP:LISTCRUFT to appeal to the most ardent fans. Fails WP:LISTN. Additionally WP:NOTDATABASE and WP:ROUTINE. As with sources per WP:RS besides being mostly unsourced; they consists of WP:PRIMARY, announcements, some appears to be rewritten from each other. Most of those are about the game itself, others are dead or redirected pages. Barely much to help this list to assert notability. SpacedFarmer (talk) 08:12, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: Because we need to continue edit for September as a Schedule Release Andrei Kenshin (talk) 13:33, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural close, all three deletion attempts of the lists of Monday Night Football games should be in a single nomination (three bites at the apple?). Randy Kryn (talk) 13:47, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Capture of Kanchangarh[edit]

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I don't understand why this page is in the mainspace when the sources provide only one line of information about this topic, "After his successful mission of Adhoni, he annexed Kanchan Garh without any bloodshed." The ongoing issue with poorly documented Indian 'Wars,' 'Sieges,' 'Battles,' and 'Captures' articles needs to be thoroughly reviewed. Based Kashmiri (talk) 08:05, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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List of Monday Night Football results (1990–2009)[edit]

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Just another case of WP:LISTCRUFT to appeal to the most ardent fans. Fails WP:LISTN. Additionally WP:NOTDATABASE and WP:ROUTINE. As with sources per WP:RS besides being mostly unsourced; most of those are about the game itself, others consists of WP:PRIMARY, YouTube and dead or redirected pages. Barely much to help this list to assert notability. SpacedFarmer (talk) 08:04, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Procedural close, all three deletion attempts of the lists of Monday Night Football games should be in a single nomination (three bites at the apple?). Randy Kryn (talk) 13:49, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I tried that previously, they never go well. SpacedFarmer (talk) 14:07, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of Monday Night Football results (1970–1989)[edit]

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Just another case of WP:LISTCRUFT to appeal to the most ardent fans. Fails WP:LISTN. Additionally WP:NOTDATABASE and WP:ROUTINE. As with sources per WP:RS besides being mostly unsourced; both sources are about the game and nothing to do with the TV coverage or just a mere mention and another is a redirect link; not doing anything to help this list to assert notability. An WP:ATD will be to trim and merge it into Monday Night Football. SpacedFarmer (talk) 07:55, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Procedural close, all three deletion attempts of the lists of Monday Night Football games should be in a single nomination (three bites at the apple?). Randy Kryn (talk) 13:48, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of CBS Sports college basketball commentators[edit]

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WP:NOTTVGUIDE applies here. Just another case of WP:INDISCRIMINATE WP:LISTCRUFT to appeal to nobody but the small minority of the most ardent fans; another excessively bloated list fit for Fandom but is it encyclopaedic for here? The subjects are not described as a group, failing WP:LISTN. Additionally WP:NOTDATABASE and WP:ROUTINE. As with sources per WP:RS, 506sports is a forum and collegehoopsnet is merely an announcment of a list of commentators, the other is a blogspot post; neither doing anything to establish notability. SpacedFarmer (talk) 23:04, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Trim and Merge to College Basketball on CBS Sports#Commentators with only the most notable announcers on that list. This list does not meet WP:LISTN for this wiki, but for the fandom wiki, it's fine. Conyo14 (talk) 04:53, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Sources such as newspaper articles dating as far back as the early 1980s can easily be found and later added over a relatively short matter of time with the aid of Google News Archives as well as places like Awful Announcing for more "current" or up to date sources. There's also presumably, official press releases from CBS Sports itself. I would estimate, that sources can be filled up in roughly a day and a half. Also, who would fall under the criteria of being "the most notable announcers" among this particular list? Are we only referring to current announcers for CBS as of 2024, are we referring to announcers who only worked the March Madness tournament? BornonJune8 (talk) 10:46, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
WP:ROUTINE applies. SpacedFarmer (talk) 12:19, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep and improve: There are secondary sources discussing these announcers as a group particularly for March Madness, as seen with [[28]], [[29]], [[30]], [[31] and [[32]] being found relatively quickly. I wouldn't oppose possibly reducing this to just the March Madness crews but sourcing does appear to show that the WP:LISTN is met. Again, this isn't a broadcasters schedule so I'm not sure how this is a WP:NOTTVGUIDE and I'm unsure which part of NOTDATABASE the nom thinks this violates. Let'srun (talk) 13:57, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Bandhan Mutual Fund[edit]

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Renominating the article because it has been restored to its original state (after minimal participation in the previous AfD) and has not been modified since the date of its refund (12 May 2024). This circumstance provides ample reason to once again initiate the deletion of the article, based on the same rationale presented during the initial deletion discussion. - "Trivial coverage according to WP:ORGTRIV. Citations are collections of paid news which are highly pervasive and deeply integrated practice within Indian news media WP:NEWSORGINDIA. The primary issue arises from the editor's attempt to pass off two financial products (exchange traded funds), namely BANDHAN S&P BSE SENSEX ETF (BSE:540154) and BANDHAN NIFTY 50 ETF (NSE:IDFNIFTYYET), as company's own stock market listings, which they are not, thereby failing to adhere to WP:LISTED. A comparable effort was observed in the AFD discussion of Aditya Birla Sun Life Insurance, wherein the company tried to be part of NIFTY 50 without proper validation. In a nutshell, the company falls short when it comes to meeting WP:NCORP, WP:CORPDEPTH, WP:ORGIND." TCBT1CSI (talk) 07:37, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Alan Guedes[edit]

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Fails WP:NPOL and utterly fails WP:GNG. Being the mayor of a certain city that is most populous in a state shouldn’t inherently make them notable as there are no sources to establish GNG. Sources are either WP:ROUTINE or WP:RUNOFTHEMILL which do not count towards GNG. Just like other articles on mayors that I have nominated in the past, just saying one is a mayor doesn’t count, aside that, they should at least pass the three basic criteria for GNG. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 07:31, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Based on my check, these sources can’t establish notability due to a lack of in-depth coverage, failing WP:GNG. Additionally, he fails WP:NPOL. I agree with the nominator, who said, “Being the mayor of a certain city that is the most populous in a state shouldn’t inherently make them notable.” GrabUp - Talk 08:06, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Muthazhagu (TV series)[edit]

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Originally deleted in 2023 under the title Muthazhagu. Recreated under disambiguation by sock and G5 removed by other user. Tagged since March for additional sources and none added. Search for additional sourcing found nothing but WP:NEWSORGINDIA, mentions, or otherwise unreliable sources. CNMall41 (talk) 07:25, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Devatha_-_Anubandhala_Alayam#Adaptations: if REALLY a series that has >500 episodes on a notable network can be considered non-notable... -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 10:56, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Summit Open Source Development Group[edit]

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I can't find any significant coverage for this organization, and the only mentions I can find just note that they maintained the Abusive Hosts Blocking List. Either a redirect or delete would be a good outcome. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 06:57, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Kanak Dhanai[edit]

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Fails WP:NPOL and WP:GNG. Was never elected into a political office that makes one inherently notable, the listed sources are mostly statistical websites on election and stuff like that. No GNG pass here. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 06:51, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Based on my check, I found that the subject fails to meet WP:GNG due to a lack of in-depth coverage from reliable, independent sources. Additionally, the subject does not meet WP:NPOL criteria, as he was never elected as an MLA or MP. The fact that his father was an independent MLA does not confer notability to the son. GrabUp - Talk 08:01, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Battle of Sambalpur[edit]

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One more article which lacks significant coverage and the sources don't go beyond mentioning some scattered lines that "Visaladeva, the tenth descendant of this line, was killed by a Muslim ruler of Delhi." There's no Battle of Sambalpur ever occurred per source. It's clearly a WP:HOAX article. Based Kashmiri (talk) 06:37, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Wars of the Deccan Sultanates[edit]

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Yet another article appears to cover a series of conflicts spanning over a century, which have been amalgamated into many 'wars.' The only source Jaques Tony cited for this title and its prolonged duration does not support the timeline mentioned in the lead and infobox (note that timeline in lead and infobox aren't aligned). This discrepancy creates confusion and suggests a lack of notability. Additionally, the article seems to rely heavily on WP:SYNTH and WP:POVFORK, which is concerning. I hope we don't get to see another non notable 'wars' article spanning centuries or even millennia. Based Kashmiri (talk) 06:19, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Siege of Channapatna[edit]

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Another Indian 'Siege' and 'Battle' article which lacks notability and significant coverage. It contains irrelevant content, forcefully stretching the article. The relevant sources cited in the 'Battle' section provide only passing mentions, such as "In 1759 it was surprised by the Mahratta army under Gopal Hari, but was speedily released by Haidar Ali" and "The Maratha leader attacked Bangalore and seized Chennapatnam, and Haider countered the attack by sending his favorite officer." It's concerning how these articles can be constructed with such minimal coverage, often just two lines. Based Kashmiri (talk) 05:46, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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List of ESPN College Basketball personalities[edit]

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WP:NOTTVGUIDE applies here. Just another case of WP:INDISCRIMINATE WP:LISTCRUFT to appeal to nobody but the small minority of the most ardent fans; another excessively bloated list fit for Fandom but is it encyclopaedic for here? The subjects are not described as a group, failing WP:LISTN. Additionally WP:NOTDATABASE and WP:ROUTINE. As with sources per WP:RS, there is none. SpacedFarmer (talk) 23:10, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Trim and Merge to ESPN College Basketball#Personalities with only the most notable announcers on that list. The article on its own is good for the fandom, it is otherwise WP:LISTCRUFT. Conyo14 (talk) 04:55, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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GMA Saturday/Sunday Report[edit]

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Tagged as unreferenced since 2009. No good hits on GNews, GSearch and GNews Archives. Most hits are old TV guide lists. Suggest redirecting to List_of_GMA_Network_original_programming#Former_original_programming as WP:ATD. --Lenticel ^(talk) 08:47, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment on the last Afd

The suggested reference in the old AfD is from GMA's news network.
The suggested essay WP:TVSHOW that is used to argue for keep is well, an essay. It's better to follow WP:GNG and cite a reliable sources to support its notability.
It was part of a mass AfD which probably made it harder for editors then to scrutinize each article's merit during that particular period. --Lenticel ^(talk) 09:00, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, also there is also lack of coverage by GMA programming (old shows) and reliable source is original research. This article should be delete per WP:SIGCOV, WP:OR and WP:RS. Icarus58 (talk) 12:27, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

So I decided to delete no redirect immediately to avoid multiple redirects for old programs since it is not advisable. Icarus58 (talk) 00:22, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to List of GMA Network original programming#Former original programming per nomination. -Ian Lopez @ 04:58, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Siege of Chittorgarh (1544)[edit]

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The article lacks general notability, as there are no cited sources specifically mentioning the Siege of Chittorgarh (1544) or providing significant coverage of this conflict. Instead, it focuses more on unrelated events such as the other conquests of Sher Shah and the Battle of Harmoda (1557). While some sources briefly mention Sher Shah's attention towards Mewar in 1544, there is no substantial coverage of a proper siege of Chittorgarh in these sources. Based Kashmiri (talk) 05:17, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Anne Kadammanja[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG or WP:ANYBIO. Nothing much available to establish notability. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 09:57, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malawi_Broadcasting_Corporation#Anne_Kadammanja where she is being mentioned in trivia. I am the creator of the article, and it would be best to simply redirect it as there are not much sources to support it as standalone article.--Tumbuka Arch (talk) 10:14, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Redirect to Malawi Broadcasting Corporation#Anne Kadammanja: per Tumbuka Arch. Cocobb8 (💬 talk • ✏️ contribs) 15:23, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Swami Avimukteshwaranand Saraswati[edit]

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BLP of a religious leader lacking in depth coverage in reliable independent sources. There may be sources in other languages, in which case it would be good if someone could add them. Mccapra (talk) 10:39, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep Avimukteshwaranand is the current head (shankaracharya) of Jyotir Math monastery (matha). His views/ events are covered in newspapers/ TV ABP News [33], Navbharat Times [34], Dainik Bhaskar [35], Economic Times [36], Amar Ujala [37], The Statesman [38], Dainik Jagran [39]--Redtigerxyz ^Talk 12:38, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Draftify. Poor sources. Current page fails WP:BIO and WP:SIGCOV but the religious person who is the topic of the page has managed to be worthy of notice by making unusual controversies to deserve attention. Sources can be found on the issues and controversies and I am going to lean to Draftify this page for improvement. RangersRus (talk) 14:42, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As nominator I’d support that. There’s a job to do in sorting out the sources to base the article on what’s genuinely independent and reliable. Mccapra (talk) 19:58, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Capture of Kabbaldurga[edit]

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Lacks notability and significant coverage. Cited with poor non WP:RS and WP:RAJ sources which give passing mentions of this event, doesn't deserve a standalone article. Based Kashmiri (talk) 05:05, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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2008 Scottsdale mayoral election[edit]

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Slightly more extensive than 2012 Scottsdale mayoral election. Still probably falls under WP:MILL. Okmrman (talk) 23:13, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep, Scottsdale is large enough, being one of the 100 largest cities in the United States that its elections are almost certainly notable. I'm not sure how someone can argue the politics of a large city like this one aren't at all notable.

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Delete Not a particularly notable election (no non-local coverage, so WP:MILL), and only sourced to election results - fails GNG. SportingFlyer T·C 00:44, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Lunar Panoramic Photography - Apollo 14[edit]

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I'm a bit conflicted about this nomination - while it's clear a lot of work was put into the article, it appears to fundamentally contradict WP:NOT, specifically WP:NOTGALLERY as a mass gallery of images with no coverage in secondary sources. Perhaps this can be transwikied somewhere else? Trainsandotherthings (talk) 23:40, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi, thanks for the feedback. On the face of it, I would agree that the the article appears to be a gallery - in its current form... It's one of a series featuring the panoramas shot on Apollo and I've been focussed on getting the basics in place first so that I can return and enrich each of them later. I'm a day or so away from completing the Apollo 17 article, but I would stand up the "Lunar Panoramic Photography - Apollo 11" article as an example of the direction I intend to go in. Although that isn't complete either, at least it includes some of those added-value features, such as placing the panoramas in context through the use of maps, and providing commentary as to how the shots came about. (And after Apollo, there's all the panoramas from the automated missions that occurred before and after the manned missions.)

Naturally, having done the work, I think it's a worthy inclusion. If there is a more appropriate format for it to be presented in then I would be happy to transfer it, but, for now, I'd prefer to think of it as moving in the direction of being a 'Catalogue' rather than a 'Gallery'... Usedtoknoweverything (talk) 14:05, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: This almost looks like it satisfies LIST, with some critical discussion about items in the list, a significant lead and a closing paragraph. This could be useful for someone looking at the photos for context of the larger lunar mission. Oaktree b (talk) 00:44, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
My issue is that there isn't even a single secondary source covering the topic. If there were, I wouldn't have brought this to AfD at all. The article appears compliant with policies, except for notability. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 01:03, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - It would be a tragedy to delete these, but as of now they don't seem to satisfy WP:NLIST. We would want secondary WP:SIGCOV discussing either the set of photographs or the photography techniques used. This certainly does seem to be widely discussed. With a quick Google Scholar search, I found: blog post from NASA, this book, "Training Apollo astronauts in lunar orbital observations and photography" in this edited volume, and possibly this book. I'm leaning keep, since I suspect sources exist; there appear to be hundreds of papers written about Apollo photography, presumably some of them discuss e.g. Apollo 14 specifically. Suriname0 (talk) 19:54, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Conway Pretorius[edit]

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I am unable to find enough coverage of the subject, a South African rugby union player, to meet WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. All I found was this transactional announcement. JTtheOG (talk) 03:39, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Looks to fail WP:GNG. No suitable redirect per WP:ATD. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 09:40, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Gemma Khalid[edit]

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Significance for WP:BIO is not visible.--Анатолий Росдашин (talk) 03:18, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. I added some references from the corresponding article in Russian. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 16:09, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wilmaure Louw[edit]

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I am unable to find enough coverage of the subject, a South African rugby union player, to meet WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. JTtheOG (talk) 03:36, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak delete There appears to be a bit of sourcing on an event that took place in 2015 here, here and here however this is probably a bit WP:ONEVENTy. While there is coverage of his rugby career it is limited and there's not anything to suggest a WP:GNG pass. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 09:39, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dabney Crossroads, Mississippi[edit]

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I don't believe this to be a notable location. The only modern coverage I can turn up for this is use of this place as a waypoint or the fact that a USGS quadrangle map was named for this site. Newspapers.com does not catch any coverage of this either except for an appearance in a listing of places served in a county supervisor's district either. Admittedly, the standard methods do not always do a good job of turning up coverage for older extinct places. However, the lack of any mention in Ed Bearss's gigantic trilogy on the Vicksburg campaign suggests this place was either not known by this name or was not significant at the time, as Bearss' work is very detailed in mentioning the minor place names of the area and the Vicksburg campaign raged right through Hinds County. I haven't seen anything that would indicate a WP:GEOLAND or WP:GNG pass here. Hog Farm _Talk 03:20, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Eital Bredenkamp[edit]

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I am unable to find enough coverage of the subject, a South African rugby union player, to meet WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. JTtheOG (talk) 02:58, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Looks to fail WP:GNG. No suitable redirect per WP:ATD. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 09:36, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Gupteswor Cave, Parbat[edit]

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Lacks significant coverage in reliable sources with only 10 Google search results. Fails WP:GNG. Mia Mahey (talk) 01:52, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Topics that meet WP:GEONATURAL, verifiable here, are usually kept. Deletion is out of question. Question is, how/where should it be included in the encyclopedia? Usedtobecool ☎️ 04:33, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge There is another article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gupteshwor_Mahadev_Cave which seems to be covering the same cave. Wikilover3509 (talk) 03:58, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No, that's a different cave. It just happens to be a name that Shaivite Hindus are likely to independently come up with when they find a cave that they're surprised they didn't find earlier and/or houses a notable rock formation that can be declared a Shiva Lingam. It could mean Cave of Lord Shiva in his form as the god of things that are hidden (or perhaps, Cave of the hidden Lord Shiva). — Usedtobecool ☎️ 05:23, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to List of caves in Nepal for now, and mark as {{RWP}}. Usedtobecool ☎️ 05:35, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Precision cut liver slices[edit]

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Yet another subarticle of Precision cut tissue slices, created by a now-blocked paid editor for a company in the industry. There's a minimal history; not sure if it's too detailed for Wikipedia or would want to be merged into Histology or something. -- Beland (talk) 02:25, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge to precision cut tissue slices; see my comments below. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 14:36, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Vibratome[edit]

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This article was apparently created by a now-blocked paid editor working for a company in the industry. The content is partly how-to and partly promotional and partly trivia. Perhaps it's best to drop it entirely or trim most of it and merge anything worth keeping into Microtome#Vibrating? -- Beland (talk) 02:22, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Ah, my mistake; it was created by User:Davidswanepoel; the blocked User:M66JX did not start editing it until October 2023. Some spammy content was added by User:Neurolady27, who also attempted to create Precisionary Instruments. This was the company that apparently paid M66JX, so now I'm wondering if this was actually a second paid editor or account? -- Beland (talk) 02:36, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Weak delete: This is an important tool in histology and pathology laboratories, but most of the sources are about technique, not the machine itself. If kept, the "In media" section has to go, 100% SYNTH. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 14:33, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mont-Tremblant/Lac Ouimet Water Aerodrome[edit]

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Fails WP:NBUILDING and WP:GNG. Long defunct airport, Only "reference" stated is the Nav Canada Wikipedia article, which make no mention of this airport, and is improper as Wikipedia is not a reliable source.

Note: this is TC LID CST9, NOT Mont-Tremblant/Saint-Jovite Airport (TC LID: CSZ3), so if you are determining if there are any WP:RS to find, they are different airports. Zinnober9 (talk) 02:15, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. The 15 March 2007 Canada Flight Supplement mentioned in the article is a valid reference. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 05:45, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Comment - The nominator is mistaken about the source. The information is not sourced from, or claimed to be sourced from the Nav Canada Wikipedia article, but rather the Canada Water Aerodrome Supplement. The link to the Wikipedia article is for clarity as the CWAS does not appear to be available online other than for purchase from Nav Canada. - ZLEA _T\^C 07:06, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Precision cut kidney slices[edit]

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Like precision cut tissue slices, this appears to have been created by a now-blocked paid editor, and is of uneven quality. Precision cut lung slices was created at the same time, but seems more informative. (I mention it in case someone wants to nominate it as well.) -- Beland (talk) 02:12, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment All the articles you mentioned read like college essays. There are brief references to some real publications, but no backing for other statements. It's all loaded with WP:OR. If anything, make precision cut tissue slices the main article, then merge the remaining to that. Otherwise, this probably could have been Speedy deleted? Conyo14 (talk) 07:29, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to precision cut tissue slices and trim that article down to remove all the lab cruft. All of these articles could be merged into a single article shorter than this one with no loss of useful content. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 14:36, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pit (Kid Icarus)[edit]

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Article was brought back recently, and again I feel the arguments of the previous AfD hold true here. Every new source added- with few exceptions- are either unreliable or a very trivial mention in a review of Uprising. Even using sources from the previous iteration of Pit's article, there still isn't nearly enough for a whole article. I recommend to restore the redirect, since nothing has been proven to state that the discussion's consensus has changed. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 02:09, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Pinging @Kazama16, who revived the article, for thoughts. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 02:10, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Restore Redirect - This was just Merged by pretty strong consensus at an AFD just three months ago, and really should not have been unilaterally restored without some kind of discussion first, which as far as I can see did not happen. But, regardless of that, the current version does not show any greater coverage in reliable sources that was presented or found in the previous discussion. All of the added sources in the reception section are simply reviews and coverage of Kid Icarus: Uprising as a whole, where the few sentences and quotes that specifically talk about Pit as a character are being cherry picked out to give the illusion of significant coverage. Uprising was a notable game that garnered many reviews, but cobbling together a dozen minor sentences of "reception" on the main character in them do not add together to give Pit his own notability separate from that of the games he appears in. Rorshacma (talk) 02:34, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect Sources that are used are press releases, ~~listicles~~, or articles about the game not the character. Still the same as the previous AfD. Update. Article still fails notability. Most were just trivia or passing mentions. 🍕Boneless Pizza!🍕 (🔔) 03:05, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Boneless Pizza! Listicles??? where show me sources that cite "Top 10 best video game characters", Top 10 archers in video games" show me where are those sources? please carefully check the article before choosing your decision. Also what about page no 8 and 9 of this book in Portuguese about Pit.[40]] This whole article is about him.[41] and this too [42] (about his supposed design). There might be even more sources that are currently not present in the article, so stop being quick for deletion as I suggest. Kazama16 (talk) 09:37, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps I was exaggerating about listicles, but you're just throwing unreliable sources here except the book one which might be bit useful. Pls do not bludgeon the discussion and make any WP:THEREMUSTBESOURCES argument. 🍕Boneless Pizza!🍕 (🔔) 05:27, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

To be fair to your original assessment, I would say this one is definitely a listicle (and one that isn't even on Pit at that!), so you were not wrong. Rorshacma (talk) 05:35, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Actually there is a mention of Pit in it on 9# Tetris. Quote= How cool is that? Well, it’s even cooler than you think because it’s not only Link; Samus Aran joins him on the cello, Pit plays the violin Kazama16 (talk) 09:41, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

So you think "How cool is that? Pit plays the violin" is a valuable commentary to add at the article? 🍕Boneless Pizza!🍕 (🔔) 10:03, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's about the game he appeared in not reception Kazama16 (talk) 10:19, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't say he wasn't mentioned in it, I said that he was not the topic of the listicle in question. That sentence you quoted is the very definition of trivial coverage that is a very good example of showing what kind poor sources and cherry picked quotes are having to be used to try to make it look like the character has more coverage than he actually does. Rorshacma (talk) 15:16, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

They aren't really bludgeoning, they're just defending their reasons for making the article. Regardless, per above, 3 is only dev info, and that can only go so far given the lackluster Reception. The Fwoosh does not seem to be a reliable source. The book source is entirely plot summary from a quick read. None of these seem to be making an impact on notability, and per prior AfDs, searches for sources have historically turned up very little, making the THEREMUSTBESOURCES argument moot. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 05:35, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The "so stop being quick for deletion as I suggest" doesn't sound right. 🍕Boneless Pizza!🍕 (🔔) 05:38, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I suggested the nominator not you, in a friendly way. Kazama16 (talk) 09:43, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I know, but it still doesn't sound right to say it like that, and I don't think it is in a "friendly way". Sometimes it is really hard to help you, like I already told you before not to work on your Draft:Takeda Takahashi, because that character is not notable, but yet you still persist. 🍕Boneless Pizza!🍕 (🔔) 10:01, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Don't bring my past to this discussion, it has nothing to do with it. Kazama16 (talk) 10:20, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Restore Redirect My prior rationale remains the same. I agree that it should have been discussed before it was restored. Perhaps it's worth pinging the restorer to this discussion to maybe give their opinion? Personally, I would not have taken it to AfD knowing the outcome will be the same, just redirect it. Conyo14 (talk) 07:22, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I felt it was likely going to cause some dispute if I did BLAR it, hence why I chose to AfD it. Additionally, I have already pinged the restorer, and they are actively participating in the discussion. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 17:47, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, I had drafted my response before seeing the restorer's active discussion Conyo14 (talk) 19:50, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. While I think the article needs clean up and a trim to focus on best sources, from a search I'm left with a sense of sufficient coverage, beyond trivial mentions in a game review, of Pit as a multimedia character not reducible to a Kid Icarus redirect (perhaps only just, but even so). Participants in the discussion may already be aware of this IGN article which covers Pit across several media appearances outside Kid Icarus. In addition to that, I found this Bleeding Cool article reporting on and assessing a Pit figurine. And the first chapter of this academic book from Bloomsbury Publishing includes coverage of the Pit character in the Kid Icarus franchise. Hydrangeans (she/her | talk | edits) 07:36, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A figurine/merchandise doesn't help WP:GNG; thus the article is still in a weak state. 🍕Boneless Pizza!🍕 (🔔) 10:02, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The article has not been checked properly; the nominator has only looked over the reception section without checking the further reading section and assumed that it is not notable per the other two previous AFDS. Kazama16 (talk) 10:33, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Lacking evidence that the nominator has not done that, I must say that as someone who has, it would not have caused me to change my mind about nominating it. All of the further reading section is either WP:ROUTINE articles coming about due to Uprising's announcement or an interesting but unreliable student article for a student magazine. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 15:21, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Forgive me for missing that, most video game character articles lack significant external reading sections, and additionally, those with them typically cite the articles in the Reception. In any case, per Cukie Gherkin above, I see no real significant coverage on Pit as a character in here. One is a review of an action figure unrelated to Pit's character, and the majority of the others are routine Kid Icarus Uprising coverage. The Writer's Block Magazine source looks decent, but I am unfamiliar with their reliability. In any case, one good source out of a swamp of them isn't really enough to justify Pit as an article. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 17:57, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't really see much commentary in the IGN article. It seems more to be a summary of Pit's appearances, and any commentary that could be taken out of it is cherry picking. The Siliconera article is less about Pit and more about the make of a figurine than anything. The book source seems to be more about the Kid Icarus game itself being compared to the game Athena. Anything relating to Pit is in regards to his character is just plot summary, though correct me if I've missed anything. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 17:53, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Restore redirect Nothing against articles getting revived, but this is still in the same place it was from the last AfD.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 19:02, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

CFAV Barkerville[edit]

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Article says absolutely nothing about the subject besides its name. There is no reason for this article to exist separately from Naval Large Tugboat. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 01:16, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Mercedes-AMG G 65[edit]

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I think the article is not needed. G class is a perfectly good page, and this is a minor variant. Saad Mirza (talk) 00:38, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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merge YBSOne (talk) 09:58, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per Category:Mercedes-Benz G-Class. There are nine articles involved, but the others are not up for deletion. This one is sourced and informative. Why delete one and keep the others? Mercedes is globally known, and a top-of-the-line brand as auto brands go. — Maile (talk) 01:03, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep There is no sourced information on this model in the main G-Class page, which is already extremely long. It makes a lot sense to leave this so people can read about this variant, without having to scroll through that page to find a brief summary. In fact the G-class has so many variants over its history, having smaller article like this that is actually about one design is much more straightforward. The main article has really become about the decades long history of the G-class now. A75 (talk) 12:05, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I am surprised there is no interest in merging the content with sources, as there is nothing on the main page right now, but a brief unsourced summary. I highly recommend preserving the content, its one of only a handful of V-12 suv in history. A75 (talk) 13:20, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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CFAV Haro[edit]

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Article says absolutely nothing about the subject besides identifying its namesake. There is no reason for this article to exist separately from Naval Large Tugboat. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 01:15, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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We Are One (global collaboration song)[edit]

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I'm not sure which WP:N criteria to apply here, whether it's NMUSIC, WP:NEVENTS, or just GNG. However, it doesn't meet any of those. This PROMO was created based on coverage that doesn't seem to have WP:SUSTAINED coverage. An interesting point to note is that the article claims the song features 40 musicians from seven countries, but I couldn't find coverage in RS outside Pakistan, except this and this but they're PAID placements. Interestingly, the creator also once nominated it for FA. Seems quite UPE. —Saqib (talk I contribs) 11:41, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: Source 7 is listed as a RS, I find this from a Gulf newspaper [43] and this from the UN [44]. It's a global collaboration among what seem to be mostly unknown artists, but with some minimal coverage. Oaktree b (talk) 00:06, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Is this the same song? [45], if yes, could help notability. Oaktree b (talk) 00:08, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oaktree b, This Gulf-Times coverage stems from an interview, so it's ROTM coverage. Similarly, the coverage from UN and CTV News is UNRELATED to this song. They don't even mention Kashan Adani, the producer of this song, nor any mention of Pakistan. Anyone arguing to keep this article must present
three best sources to determine if this song passes GNG. —Saqib (talk I contribs) 09:57, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It seems there were several songs with the same name "We Are One" during the COVID period. —Saqib (talk I contribs) 10:01, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, so we can remove the UN and CTV article, even if the Gulf article stems from an interview, it's still fairly extensive, I'm still at a !keep, week keep, but yes. Oaktree b (talk) 19:58, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oaktree b, From what I gather, sources like Gulf Times are acceptable for WP:V but they may not enough to meet WP:GNG as they need to meet the WP:SIRS. —Saqib (talk I contribs) 09:00, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as well as the Gulf piece, this is significant coverage in this reliable source [46], more coverage here, passes WP:GNG so that deletion is unnecessary in my view, Atlantic306 (talk) 21:05, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Atlantic306, Coverage in above cited Express Tribune and BOL News stories, including the one in Gulf Times, were published in late May/early June 2020, coinciding with the song's launch on 28 May 2020. However, the criteria require sustained and significant coverage to reflect lasting relevance, which I don't observe here. Furthermore, the coverage by Express Tribune and Gulf Times, based on interviews, does not meet the WP:SIRS criteria. Additionally, BOL News coverage, being a WP:NEWSORGINDIA, may not be reliable enough even for WP:GNG. —Saqib (talk I contribs) 09:09, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Malhun Hatun (fictional character)[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG. Having hard time to find any valuable source per WP:BEFORE + character has no reception at all. 🍕Boneless Pizza!🍕 (🔔) 10:48, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: I searched Malhun Hatun without "fictional character" and went to Google News and found tons of sources about her. Perhaps you should tag it for notability for a week or two weeks, then nominate it for deletion or maybe an assessment, although that's just my opinion. Kazama16 (talk) 14:11, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
WP:THEREMUSTBESOURCES. 🍕Boneless Pizza!🍕 (🔔) 11:33, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Files[edit]

File:Cryptopunks general.jpg[edit]

The rationale said that the image was created using a computer algorithm, but images generated by a computer algorithm are ineligible for copyright because it does not contain sufficient human authorship to support a copyright claim, unless it was made in the UK or Hong Kong. Kys5g^talk! 04:48, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:The avatar used by Fat Cat during his lifetime.jpg[edit]

WP:NFCC#8: Contextual significance. This is only the avatar of Fat Cat (Pangmao) which contributes little to reader's understanding of the topic. Fat Cat was not an online celebrity so this meme-avatar cannot serve as "visual identification" as the rationale have said. The phrase "I don't want vegetables, I want McDonald's" on the avatar can be conveyed by text, which the article already had. — 魔琴 (Zauber Violino) [ talk contribs ] 18:19, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Categories[edit]

NEW NOMINATIONS[edit]

Category:14th-century Bavandid rulers[edit]

Propose renaming Category:14th-century Bavandid rulers to Category:14th-century Iranian rulers

Nominator's rationale: I don't think we need to diffuse Bavand dynasty by century. Instead I think we should repurpose it to be a nationality category. Mason (talk) 20:57, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Youth activists[edit]

Propose merging Category:Youth activists to Category:Child activists

Nominator's rationale: I think we should just merge these two categories, they're both extremely similar with the defining feature being that the activist is notable for being young. Mason (talk) 20:26, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Nepali language movement activists[edit]

Propose merging Category:Nepali language movement activists to Category:Nepali language activists

Nominator's rationale: Overlapping categories. Rervse merge also fine by me Mason (talk) 20:21, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Italian expatriates in the Crusader states[edit]

Propose renaming Category:Italian expatriates in the Crusader states to Category:Expatriates in the Crusader states

Nominator's rationale: There's no main category, so I think this child category should be repurposed to cover all expatriates, not just those from italy Mason (talk) 18:31, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Alternative: merge to Category:People from the Crusader states. The Crusader states were a wholly "expatriate culture" to begin with, so it is not particularly helpful to distinguish expatriates from other people in the Crusader states. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:37, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Even better! Mason (talk) 20:22, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Urdu critics[edit]

Propose splitting Category:Urdu critics to Category:Indian critics and Category:Pakistani critics

Nominator's rationale: Non-defining intersection between language spoken and occupation. This category should be split into Indian critics‎ and Pakistani critics. Mason (talk) 18:13, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Split per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:40, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:People educated at Coláiste an Phiarsaigh[edit]

Propose deleting Category:People educated at Coláiste an Phiarsaigh (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Unneeded category - Only 2 entries which I've added to the school article, Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 15:09, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose: a list on a single article is no reason to reject a category accomplishing the same task in a different area of the site. Plus, there are now twice as many entries as there were at time of proposal. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 20:38, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lean to delete, attandence of a particular secondary school is not a very defining characteristic of an individual person. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:52, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Please see my reply to Peter James here, I guess this can be withdrawn although for the record I'm not happy about it nor do I see a point in having duplicate information... But if EN wants duplicate information for the sake of having duplicate information then who am I to get in the way of that. –Davey2010^Talk 10:05, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Categories are not superseded by lists. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:54, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:People educated at De La Salle College Dundalk[edit]

Propose deleting Category:People educated at De La Salle College Dundalk (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Superseded by the same list at De La Salle College Dundalk#Notable alumni, Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 15:19, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose: a list on a single article is no reason to reject a category accomplishing the same task in a different area of the site. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 20:36, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lean to delete, attandence of a particular secondary school is not a very defining characteristic of an individual person. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:52, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Please see my reply to Peter James here, I guess this can be withdrawn although for the record I'm not happy about it nor do I see a point in having duplicate information... But if EN wants duplicate information for the sake of having duplicate information then who am I to get in the way of that. –Davey2010^Talk 10:05, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Categories are not superseded by lists. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:54, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:People educated at Alcester Grammar School[edit]

Propose deleting Category:People educated at Alcester Grammar School (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Superseded by the list at Alcester Grammar School#Notable alumni, Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 15:45, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose: a list on a single article is no reason to reject a category accomplishing the same task in a different area of the site. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 20:36, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Why would we want duplicating information though ?, Why do we need an under-populated category when a list within an article does the same job ?, Also do you have any sort of link that explicitly states duplicating information is fine because if you do I'd happily close this. –Davey2010^Talk 00:16, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lean to delete, attandence of a particular secondary school is not a very defining characteristic of an individual person. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:51, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- There are thousands of such categories. Deleting one makes no sense. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:53, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Wikipedia:Categories, lists, and navigation templates#Overlapping categories, lists and navigation templates are not considered duplicative. There are thousands of these in Category:Alumni by secondary school. If they are not defining then all should be deleted. Peter James (talk) 20:04, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I guess this is one of those things I will never understand, How is a duplicate category "complimentary" when it's literally a duplicate??, Why do we need 2 things of the same thing ?, what is achieved or what is the end goal in having 2 of the same thing ?, I don't get it I truly don't.

Nonetheless Wikipedia:Categories, lists, and navigation templates#Overlapping categories, lists and navigation templates are not considered duplicative renders my whole arguement moot so I guess my only option here is to withdraw, Thank you for providing that guideline it's greatly appreciated, Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 10:01, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Categories are not superseded by lists. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:53, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:History of Bahawalpur District[edit]

Propose merging Category:History of Bahawalpur District to Category:Bahawalpur District

Nominator's rationale: merge, only one article in the category, this is not helpful for navigation. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:31, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom Mason (talk) 18:32, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Continental League contributors[edit]

Propose merging Category:Continental League contributors to Category:Baseball executives

Nominator's rationale: No need for parent category, see below. Once the parent category Category:Continental League is deleted, there is no place for this category to be and there is no existing scheme of Category:Contributors by baseball league. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 22:03, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge per nom.--User:Namiba 17:40, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Koavf and Namiba: Could you please clarify the rationale for this nomination? It doesn't make sense to me. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 17:49, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'd also like to hear some rationale, because I'm also unsure about this.Mason (talk) 18:33, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Continental League[edit]

Propose deleting Category:Continental League (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Too little content, all adequately interlinked. See also second proposal above. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 22:02, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom.--User:Namiba 17:40, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:History of Rawalpindi District[edit]

Propose merging Category:History of Rawalpindi District to Category:History of Punjab, Pakistan

Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory and one article. No other districts in Punjab but Bahawalpur (see further above) have a category like this. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:28, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Military history of Punjab, Pakistan[edit]

Propose merging Category:Military history of Punjab, Pakistan to Category:Military history of Pakistan

Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:25, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Iranian Arab families[edit]

Propose merging Category:Iranian Arab families to Category:Iranian Arab people

Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:10, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Canadian families by ethnic or national origin[edit]

Propose renaming Category:Canadian families by ethnic or national origin to Category:Canadian families by ancestry

Nominator's rationale: rename similar to Category:Families by ancestry and sibling categories therein. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:06, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Colonial United States (Mexican)[edit]

Propose merging Category:Colonial United States (Mexican) to Category:Mexico–United States relations

Nominator's rationale: merge, it is an odd category name, ignoring the fact that the colonial era in Mexico (hence in these regions) had ended in 1821, and there does not seem to be much reason to keep it separate from the target. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:46, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:American gangsters of Sicilian descent[edit]

Propose merging Category:American gangsters of Sicilian descent to Category:American gangsters of Italian descent and Category:People of Sicilian descent
Propose merging Category:Murdered American gangsters of Sicilian descent to Category:American gangsters of Sicilian descent and Category:Murdered American gangsters of Italian descent

Nominator's rationale: Merge per previous precedent Omnis Scientia (talk) 10:43, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lean to support, while in Italy the Sicilian Mafia is quite distinct, I think that is not so much the case in the United States. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:57, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Metropolis albums[edit]

Propose renaming Category:Metropolis albums to Category:Metropolis (album series)

Nominator's rationale: Not sure what the best title for this would be so open for other alternatives. This is obviously not albums about Metropolis nor about Metropolis (1927 film), but is related to albums by Janelle Monáe which form some kind of series (and currently has no article and no redirect as far as I can tell). Gonnym (talk) 09:18, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Stryper tribute albums[edit]

Propose merging Category:Stryper tribute albums to Category:Stryper

Nominator's rationale: Sole entry is non-notable and now a redirect, so there's no point in a separate category. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 08:26, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:58, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Scottish child businesspeople[edit]

Propose splitting Category:Scottish child businesspeople to Category:Scottish children and Category:British child businesspeople

Nominator's rationale: 3x upmerge for now. This category only has one person in it, which isn't helpful for navigation. Mason (talk) 04:10, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dual merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:56, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Video games using procedural generation[edit]

Propose deleting Category:Video games using procedural generation (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Games with randomly-generated maps is nothing special, it's not even that hard to add this into your game. Almost every RTS, turn-based strategy, city-builder, and open-world survival game has had it. And some of haven't even been listed. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 03:26, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Savoyards in Thirteenth Century England[edit]

Propose renaming Category:Savoyards in Thirteenth Century England to Category:13th-century Savoyard knights

Nominator's rationale: This category needs to be renamed to match the naming conventions of other categories. I'm not married to the rename but it's the best I could come up with that matches the vibes of the category and the main page Savoyard knights in the service of Edward I Mason (talk) 02:04, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rename anyway, but preferably to Category:Savoyard emigrants to England. Having England in the name seems more relevant than having the century in the name. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:16, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Equally fine with me. Mason (talk) 11:35, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Fanny (band)[edit]

Propose deleting Category:Fanny (band) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Too little content: only two cats and two articles (and the two cats only have 4 or 6 articles themselves). ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 01:12, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Former universities and colleges of Jesuits[edit]

Propose renaming Category:Former universities and colleges of Jesuits to Category:Former Jesuit universities and colleges

Nominator's rationale: The current name is not only awkward and not parallel to the name of the related category for current Jesuit institutions ("Jesuit universities and colleges") but its meaning is also unclear. ElKevbo (talk) 18:44, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If someone has a (legitimate) concern that "Former Jesuit" is also ambiguous - does it mean "a university or college that was once a Jesuit institution but is no longer a Jesuit institution" or "a Jesuit university or college that is now closed" ? - then "Formerly Jesuit universities and colleges" would resolve that ambiguity. The category does currently include institutions in both of those situations so this may be important. ElKevbo (talk) 20:00, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It is ambiguous in any case and the distinction between current and former Jesuit is also not enormously important. Manually merge to Category:Jesuit universities and colleges insofar the articles aren't already in country subcategories. Marcocapelle (talk) 03:27, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Marcocapelle: Can you please say more about "the distinction between current and former Jesuit is also not enormously important." In my mind, it's a very important distinction as it indicates a very important shift in the institution's mission, organization, and support. ElKevbo (talk) 03:43, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Every university or college will eventually be closed or taken over. The category is primarily useful to learn about the history of the Jesuits. Category:Universities and colleges established by Jesuits would be a better name except it is rather long. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:15, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That's an entirely different subject and you're welcome to establish that category if you feel strongly about it but it doesn't seem terribly relevant to the discussion at hand. And I completely disagree that "the category is primarily useful to learn about the history of the Jesuits" as its primary use is to identify colleges and universities who are identified with that particular religious order. It's less about the history of that order and more about the intended function and role of these colleges and universities.

"Every university or college will eventually be closed or taken over" doesn't seem like a very helpful or productive perspective at all. Every religion will eventually fade into disuse or change until it's unrecognizable. The sun will eventually explore destroying all life and structure on the planet. The universe will eventually fade into heat death. None of that is very useful when considering what we should or should not do here and now in this encyclopedia. ElKevbo (talk) 15:50, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Carib people[edit]

Propose deleting Category:Carib people
Propose deleting Category:British people of Carib descent
Propose deleting Category:Dominica people of Carib descent
Propose deleting Category:French people of Carib descent
Propose deleting Category:Trinidad and Tobago people of Carib descent
Propose deleting Category:Venezuelan people of Carib descent

Nominator's rationale The term "Carib" is ambiguous as it can be used to refer to either the Kalinago (Island Caribs) or the Kalina (Mainland Caribs). Despite both being commonly called "Caribs", the Kalinago and the Kalina are different peoples with different languages and cultures. There isn't a single "Carib" group encompassing both the Kalina and Kalinago. Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 13:55, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

~~The problem is clear, but is deletion the best solution? What about splitting to Kalinago and Kalina?~~ Marcocapelle (talk) 04:26, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Support, at second glance these categories are so lightly populated that splitting them does not make a lot of sense. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:02, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Cartoonists by country templates[edit]

Propose deleting Category:Cartoonists by country templates (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Only contains 1 template which is already within Category:Comics creator navigational boxes. – Fayenatic London 21:00, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If not deleted, then rename to Category:Cartoonists templates which could also hold Template:Underground comix cartoonists, Template:Cartoonists from Kerala, Template:Cartoonist-stub and its 3 related national templates, and Template:Seth (cartoonist). These are the only templates with cartoonist in the name, although there may be other navboxes for comics creators who are more specifically cartoonists. – Fayenatic London 21:00, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Renaming and populating isn't a bad idea at all. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:14, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Uyghur women poets[edit]

Propose merging Category:Uyghur women poets to Category:Uyghur poets

Nominator's rationale: Non-defining intersection between type of writer, ethnicity, and gender. There's not a Uyghur women category or women poets by ethnicity. Mason (talk) 00:21, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:22, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Member municipalities of the Greater Vancouver Regional District[edit]

Propose renaming Category:Member municipalities of the Greater Vancouver Regional District to Category:Member municipalities of the Metro Vancouver Regional District

Nominator's rationale: The regional district has gone by the "Metro Vancouver" title for several years now. RedBlueGreen93 06:59, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support per article title Metro Vancouver Regional District. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:04, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirects[edit]

Heidi Strobel[edit]

Heidi Strobel → Cole Hamels (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Inappropriate redirect. Nothing at the target page gives any information about this subject aside from the fact that they're married. Bgsu98 (Talk) 19:52, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Neal Stephenson books[edit]

Neal Stephenson/Snow Crash → Snow Crash (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Neal Stephenson/Cryptonomicon → Cryptonomicon (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Neal Stephenson/In the Beginning → In the Beginning... Was the Command Line (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Neal Stephenson/The Big U → The Big U (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Neal Stephenson/Zodiac → Zodiac (novel) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Delete. These were created over 20 years ago, very early in Wikipedia's history, possibly when article titling was done differently. There is no substantial history on any of them. Some of them were originally the pages for the book before a move, and some were created as redirects. Apart from that creation/move, there are only some bot/maintenance edits. None of the redirects have any incoming links except for the Cryptonomicon one, which has userspace links on a list of redirects that some user is maintaining. --superioridad ^(discusión) 18:07, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per WP:RFD#K4, which advises that links that have existed for a significant length of time, including CamelCase links (e.g. WolVes) and old subpage links, should be left alone in case there are any existing links on external pages pointing to them.. - Eureka Lott 20:36, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cedar Ridge Middle School[edit]

Cedar Ridge Middle School → Decatur City Schools (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Delete for no mention at the target, and therefore confusing. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 18:04, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is a former article that was WP:BLARed in 2014 per WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES. The mention in the target article was removed in 2019 and it's no longer listed on the school district's website, because it was renamed. A mention could be added back to the target article, and the school is mentioned at Austin High School (Alabama). A different school of the same name is mentioned Oregon Trail School District, but I don't know if that's enough to justify disambiguation. - Eureka Lott 19:58, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The school is listed at the target article in the listing of middle schools. That's enough for the redirect. 4.37.252.50 (talk) 01:45, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Added the previous name mention at the target. Jay 💬 09:10, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hyperstar[edit]

Hyperstar → Metallicity#Stars (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Hyperstars → Stellar population#Population III stars (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Not mentioned at target. For the former, note that Iran Hyper Star also appears to be written without a space on the logo. 1234qwer 1234qwer 4 15:13, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom for now. Seems to be a camera accessory and also a name for a series of hypermarkets according to GSearch. --Lenticel ^(talk) 01:59, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Only mention in published research as a type of star is this, which is not even about metallicity but about a pathway for black hole formation. And the article it cites doesn't actually use this term. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 19:56, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Retarget Hyperstar to Carrefour, Delete the plural. Jay 💬 15:20, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Wikipedia:GREENGABLES[edit]

Wikipedia:GREENGABLES → Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Same reason as Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_May_1#Wikipedia:LITTLEORPHAN; this was created at the same time as that redirect. 2A0E:1D47:9085:D200:94B3:D441:1507:1AE8 (talk) 15:02, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: the basis for that nomination seems to have been that the redirect target was confusing(?). What alternate target do you think exists for 'green gables'? jp×g 🗯️ 18:53, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: I don't see how Green Gables relates to AN. Waylon (was) (here) 17:10, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Waylon111: The inside joke is based on the novel Anne of Green Gables. Lenticel ^(talk) 00:25, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as a confusing inside joke at best. --Lenticel ^(talk) 00:22, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as harmless and no better target, also WP:FUNPOLICE. This isn't a mainspace redirect, there's no need to be so serious. Fieari (talk) 05:24, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Fieari. Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 02:37, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Leo Trotskij[edit]

Leo Trotskij → Leon Trotsky (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

"Trotskij" appears to be the spelling of Trotsky's name in various North Germanic languages and this spelling isn't used in the article. The mention in the article was removed as part of another RfD for Lev Trotskij that was deleted. Delete this as well. Jay 💬 19:34, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Some romanizations of Russian do use ⟨ij⟩ for the letter-combination ⟨ий⟩. –LaundryPizza03 (d c̄) 18:27, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per @LaundryPizza03. 48JCL (talk) 17:15, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom and per precedent at the linked RfD. No use in keeping unless a mention is re-added to the target. CycloneYoris ^talk! 01:36, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Turing recognizable[edit]

Turing recognizable → Recursively enumerable language (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Turing-recognizable → Recursively enumerable language (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Turing-recognizable language → Recursively enumerable language (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

I think this should redirect to the more general notion of Computably enumerable set. (When this discussion is closed, a Turing-recognizable redirect should be created with the same target.) 1234qwer 1234qwer 4 20:02, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You may want to treat the redirect Turing-recognizable language the same way. –jacobolus (t) 20:05, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

...Or add it to this discussion, like I just did. Steel1943 (talk) 20:53, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Or not. 1234qwer 1234qwer 4 00:50, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No, because that one is about languages specifically, which is in line with the target. 1234qwer 1234qwer 4 00:50, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

...Or you could just create Turing-recognizable and add it to this nomination ... like I just did... Steel1943 (talk) 20:52, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Or not (because I don't like creating a redirect and immediately nominating it for discussion). 1234qwer 1234qwer 4 00:53, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

...Or just do it and don't waste the community's time with hypotheticals. Steel1943 (talk) 09:43, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You were the one who started approaching the statement of my nomination with hypotheticals. 1234qwer 1234qwer 4 10:45, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, I took action rather than waiting for another editor to do it. Steel1943 (talk) 13:03, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget the first two to Computably enumerable set as they are not about languages specifically, but keep Turing-recognizable language as it is. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 14:47, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Latin peoples[edit]

Latin peoples → Latins (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

History indicates that this used to be a problematic article that was then redirected to Italic peoples, then to Romance-speaking world which was relatively recently deleted (2023), and now re-created as a redirect to Latins by a new user. This should be discussed before we let it stay. Joy (talk) 13:19, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'd argue that Latin people or Latin peoples can be rather vague. It's been seen used colloquially just to mean "Latin Americans" and also been used in European contexts whether for present day Romance-speaking groups or for historical populations like the Italic Latins of antiquity. Since the article Latins covers broadly all "people-related" uses of this term since antiquity it seems like a good fit for a redirect. Evaporation123 (talk) 01:31, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

And that would be fine if this was stable, but in the latest rewrite, we already had a revert [47] by @Liz and a major intervention[48] by @Diannaa. A clearer consensus would be preferable. --Joy (talk) 06:48, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per Evaporation123, broad target fitting for a broad redirect. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 14:45, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Evil Mario[edit]

Evil Mario → Wario (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

could also be referring to bowser jr., doopliss, or mario himself in earlier continuities. also arguably not fitting in the first place after... his debut, but that's besides the point cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 17:19, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: I believe "Evil Mario" is pretty synonymous with Wario in the same way Waluigi is with Luigi. Note that Evil Luigi also exists as a redirect. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:31, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
granted, there is that one literal evil luigi in super paper mario... cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 11:05, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom as it could easily mean several other different entities and characters, not just Wario. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 02:32, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Overly vague, and could conceivably refer to numerous different characters. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 10:34, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Very ambiguous. Okmrman (talk) 04:13, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also bundle Evil Luigi along with this discussion Okmrman (talk) 04:16, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per Hey man im josh. This goes where I'd expect it to. --BDD (talk) 14:52, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep, while not explicitly called "evil Mario", Wario is designed as his evil counterpart, and is the most plausible target for "evil Mario" compared to various Mario games antagonists. Same for evil Luigi (Waluigi). Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 14:43, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as vague, multiple "evil Mario" target possibilities exist and Wario does not equal Mario. If anything I'd expect this to go to a Mario (red hat) related article or respective list of characters, as no mention of "Evil Mario" exists at the current target for Wario. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 23:41, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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on second thought, i implied a suggestion for a dab, but it would be better to delete, since none of the possible targets are explicitly "evil marios" in the same way that mr. l (the l stands for "winner") is an evil luigi

amd wario has gone farther and farther from being a caricature of mario, and went from outright evil to "mostly good, but only because that's more profitable"

unless waluigi is on screen, in which case he's just an asshole cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 18:16, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Baak film redirects[edit]

Baak (Telugu film) → Aranmanai 4 (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Baakghost → Aranmanai 4 (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Both of these redirects have no point. Both these redirects (Baakghost and Baak (Telugu film)) along with Baak (Telugu Film) were initially created by SenthilGugan as Articles for the Telugu dubbed version of Aranmanai 4. After seeing no need for another article, when there's already a primary article and an Afd the pages were turned to redirects. But, there is no need these many redirects, as not even the Google recognizes these names. I only included two redirects because, the other one has already been Rfded. 𝓥𝓮𝓼𝓽𝓻𝓲𝓪𝓷24𝓑𝓲𝓸 (ᴛᴀʟᴋ) 11:16, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Vestrian24Bio, what's the reason for nominating this redirect for deletion? I could be missing a potential problem with it; but, from what I can see, this title is mentioned at the target under Aranmanai 4#Release. All the best, ‍—‍a smart kitten_[meow] 11:21, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I am typing it; please wait for me to post it. 𝓥𝓮𝓼𝓽𝓻𝓲𝓪𝓷24𝓑𝓲𝓸 (ᴛᴀʟᴋ) 11:22, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, sorry - I was confused as to why the redirect was nominated without a rationale, but that makes sense. All the best, ‍—‍a smart kitten_[meow] 11:24, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's fine 𝓥𝓮𝓼𝓽𝓻𝓲𝓪𝓷24𝓑𝓲𝓸 (ᴛᴀʟᴋ) 11:33, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: It's Baak. See this. Kailash29792 (talk) 11:24, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Noting that the above !vote was made underneath the entry for Baakghost, before the two nominations had been combined - see [49]. Best, ‍—‍a smart kitten_[meow] 12:38, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep but make the target more precise to a section in the article: Aranmanai_4#Theatrical The title in the target section of this Telugu version of the film IS Baak. The second R was Redirected after an Afd and the first BLARed as ATD, so that the pages history and credits could be kept, which is always good. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 09:09, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Agree with the first one, but the second R: A Google search of that name would give the results for Baak (Assamese folklore), so how much of an accurate redirect that would be? 𝓥𝓮𝓼𝓽𝓻𝓲𝓪𝓷24𝓑𝓲𝓸 (ᴛᴀʟᴋ) 14:48, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Fair enough. Then, in order to preserve history and credits for both, rename the second (but then the double redirect needs to be fixed) OR change target so that it redirects to the Assamese folklore page (which will preserve the history, only upon a different topic). A DISAMB page can also be considered. Thanks. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 17:57, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I say we retarget to Baak (Assamese folklore) and move Baakghost to Baak ghost without leaving a redirect. You agree Mushy Yank? Kailash29792 (talk) 10:19, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sure! Thanks. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 10:55, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Summarizing the above discussion, Keep and Re-target Baak (Telugu film) to Aranmanai 4#Theatrical while, Move Baakghost to Baak ghost without leaving a redirect and Re-target to Baak (Assamese folklore). Is that correct Kailash29792 and Mushy Yank? 𝓥𝓮𝓼𝓽𝓻𝓲𝓪𝓷24𝓑𝓲𝓸 (ᴛᴀʟᴋ) 04:07, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes you are right. Kailash29792 (talk) 04:30, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As far as I’m concerned, yes, I think that’s a good solution. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 21:16, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Unlabeled[edit]

Unlabeled → Draft:Unlabeled (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

per wp:SRD --MikutoH ^talk! 23:13, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget to wikt:unlabeled again. --MikutoH ^talk! 23:13, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: dabifying is also possible as Unlabeled coloring, Unlabeled sexuality, Unlabeled - The Demos also exist --MikutoH ^talk! 23:15, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't object. It seems like I incorrectly assumed your article was spam. My apologies. EdmHopLover1995 (talk) 23:16, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I went ahead and restored the soft redirect, though I think this discussion should remain open since dabifying is also being considered as an option. CycloneYoris ^talk! 00:49, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per Template:Wiktionary redirect. Wikipedia is not a dictionary and we don't need Wiktionary redirects for common words. A disambiguation page wouldn't be appropriate, because all of the potential entries are WP:PTMs. - Eureka Lott 13:44, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Eureka Lott: As WP:PTM describes, some partial title matches do belong on disambiguation pages. I think title-subtitle is one of the more obvious cases for that. jlwoodwa (talk) 04:02, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I suppose that could apply to Unlabeled - The Demos. Are there other good candidates for a potential disambiguation page? - Eureka Lott 18:37, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Dabify per MikutoH's last comment, plausible search term with several relevant entries. A Wiktionary link could be present on the dab if necessary. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 18:26, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Evil Luigi[edit]

Evil Luigi → Waluigi (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

as opposed to "evil mario" which was nominated a few days ago, which could have referred to a good handful of characters (ironically not including wario), there is a very concrete "evil luigi", that being mr. l from super paper mario, though he's only mentioned by name in luigi's article. i'd say retarget to super paper mario and mention his name there cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 14:06, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete since it can plausibly refer to multiple subjects. On top of Mr. L and Waluigi, I'm sure there's other "evil" variants of Luigi that exist that could be conflated with them. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 14:23, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

to my knowledge, those are actually the only ones. shadoo (also from super paper mario) could maybe probably count since he takes the shapes of the main cast (funnily enough, he copies mr. l's design instead of luigi's), though i haven't been able to find any other clones or doppelgängers wanting to be the better mario brother cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 14:34, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

should probably clarify that i mean evil luigis, i will accept no gooigi slander in this house cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 14:37, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: I believe the expected result for "Evil Luigi" is Waluigi, same as somebody searching "Evil Mario" would expect to be redirected to Wario. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:56, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose deletion with no opinion on keep vs. dabify. There is, I think we all agree, at least one plausible meaning of "Evil Luigi," so something should exist at that title. "Delete since it can plausibly refer to multiple subjects" does not match any of the rationales listed at WP:R#RCD. If there is only one meaning, then it can target that meaning. If there is more than one meaning, then it can be dabified (or we can pick a primary topic). There's no situation where you delete something that has at least one valid meaning. --N Y Kevin 07:46, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Evil Luigi is Mr. L at most. Waluigi is not Luigi, and therefore cannot be "Evil Luigi" (as he would need to be Luigi to be evil, which he is not, and is a separate character). We do have a character on Wikipedia that is Luigi, and is "evil", i.e. Mr. L, so this if anything is the only possibility that exists. However, I would not expect this description of Mr. L to be a redirect, as "Mr. L" is a suitable and workable search term. No reason to have Bad Luigi or Devious Luigi. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 19:51, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per Utopes Okmrman (talk) 03:23, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Dougie (disambiguation)[edit]

Dougie (disambiguation) → Dougie (given name) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

The set index is not a disambiguation. I can only find Dougie as a dance, and Dougie (given name), but I can't find the 3rd. If you can't find the 3rd one, will this page be deleted or kept? 176.42.17.150 (talk) 16:08, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Dougie (given name) does not involve the dance, and does Dougie from Bluey count as 3rd? 176.42.17.150 (talk) 16:12, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. If there's enough content to create a disambiguation page, that's certainly fine. If not, the redirect should be kept because the target provides a disambiguation-like function. - Eureka Lott 17:15, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- We generally avoid pointing Foo (disambiguation) titles to non-disambiguation pages. BD2412 T 17:51, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  - We do point them at pages that "serve a disambiguation-like function" though, which anthroponymy pages do. Oops, I thought I removed this comment before saving — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ivanvector (talk • contribs) 19:20, 18 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Restore the separate disambiguation page at Dougie (disambiguation). It's the best solution out of no particularly good solutions. BD2412 T 17:53, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Eureka Lott. If Dougie is the only title needing disambiguation that is not a person or character's name, which seems to be the case, it's silly to have nearly-identical disambiguation and anthroponymy pages that only differ by that one link. Just add a hatnote or see-also to the existing list. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 19:20, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Ivanvector. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 19:44, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Should be treated as an average redirect from incorrect disambiguation. The correct disambiguator in the title "Dougie (given name)" is "given name", and the disambiguator "disambiguation" is incorrect. No need to add an irrelevant see also link or hatnote to the anthro list. Someone who is at "Foo (given name)" doesn't need to be directed to "Foo" that is not name-related (not a "related or comparable" topic).—Alalch E. 22:43, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
We actually need this to exist because there's a broken piece of software, which is used by a lot of people who disambiguate, that thinks links to "Dougie (given name)" need to be disambiguated, so they can at least pipe link this to avoid the software bug. --Joy (talk) 07:40, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Restore disambiguation page per BD2412 and because ... since Dougie exists, claiming that a page about a given name is the de facto disambiguation page is erroneous. Steel1943 (talk) 17:10, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Keep or restore dab?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris ^talk! 21:46, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Don't delete. In addition to what's already been said, redirects that end in (disambiguation) which target a page performing a disambiguation-like function (rather than a disambiguation page) are also helpful for linking to Wikidata items. To use this redirect as an example, the French and Italian Wikipedias have a disambiguation page for the term Dougie, which are both linked to Dougie (Q13364643): Wikimedia disambiguation page. However, as Dougie (given name) is an article about the name & isn't a dab page, it's linked to the Wikidata item about the name itself (Dougie (Q3037978): male given name). Redirects such as Dougie (disambiguation) are able to be connected to the Wikidata item about the disambiguation page as a sitelink to redirect (as I've just done); and therefore allow readers of the French and Italian Wikipedias to access the enwiki article (that serves a disambiguation-like function) via an interlanguage link. All the best, ‍—‍a smart kitten_[meow] 14:10, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Move Dougie to Dougie (dance): it isn't the primary topic. Put a disambiguation page at Dougie and point this redirect at it. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 16:24, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Disambiguate per Shhhnotsoloud. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 15:57, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: One more relist, since there's some momentum away from keep despite the initial lead in numbers.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, _signed,Rosguill ^talk 16:43, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Box 850[edit]

Box 850 → MI6 (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Not mentioned in target, nor anywhere else on Wikipedia for that matter. 2001:999:68C:AC40:8038:7BCB:6859:B02D (talk) 15:49, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cyclone Fabien (2023)[edit]

Cyclone Fabien (2023) → 2022–23 South-West Indian Ocean cyclone season#Intense Tropical Cyclone Fabien (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Also, another redirect from unnecessary disambiguation that is not suitable for primary redirect. If CSD G7 requires a deletion, then the author request for blanking — but it is declined without an evidences occur. Fabien is only one storm for the naming storms in Southwestern Indian Ocean last 2023. This should be delete to prevent the typo parentheses like "(2021)". Icarus58 (talk) 07:53, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - standard practice for tropical cyclone redirects. Noah, BSBA^Talk 11:05, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Hurricane Noah, I'm also disagree about the standard practices on each tropical cyclone. Since lasts 4 months that I deleted the disambiguation article "Cyclone Fabien (2023)", Flux55 created the redirect again without a reasonable excuses. Icarus58 (talk) 11:54, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This is a valid redirect so I don’t see the issue with it having been created after the disambiguation was deleted. Noah, BSBA^Talk 13:12, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep unless I'm missing something else. This is a standard {{R from unnecessary disambiguation}} redirect for all topics where there's any chance at all of using the disambiguator. Don't see how this increase the risk of typos as described nor why it could possibly be A7 eligible. Skynxnex (talk) 12:55, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kion[edit]

Kion → KION-TV (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Kion may also refer to the one from The Lion Guard. So, retarget to KION and add the character to this disambiguation. 176.42.18.33 (talk) 07:23, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget to List of The Lion King (franchise) characters as the likeliest target per WP:DIFFCAPS. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 12:59, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The character, Kion, should be added to KION regardless of the outcome of this discussion. BD2412 T 14:12, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Move KION to Kion; I have added senses to the disambiguation page. BD2412 T 16:37, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cyclone Hamoon (2023)[edit]

Cyclone Hamoon (2023) → Cyclone Hamoon (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

The previous redirect is unnecessary disambiguation and I wonder how will transposed the main article as "Cyclone Hamoon". I suggest that this redirect should be delete without putting disambiguation as "(2023)" respectively. Icarus58 (talk) 01:52, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - standard practice and not something to be decided in a single RfD. Noah, BSBA^Talk 10:58, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Hurricane Noah, there is also a wrong typo like the disambiguation title like the parentheses "(2023)" and I surprised more redirects have standard practices by the other users. But for me, it is better to delete rather than spread more redirects like the only one storm naming in North and Southwest Indian Ocean basins. Icarus58 (talk) 11:50, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
All storms that aren’t at the main title have (year) after the storm name. Redirects are cheap so I see no point in deleting this. Noah, BSBA^Talk 13:11, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Educating[edit]

Educating → Education (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Unlikely redirect; currently it's used in only one article (N._Ravichandran). Deleting this redirect would help clean up the lead of Education, by removing a distracting dab hatnote. fgnievinski (talk) 01:20, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep as someone searching for "educating" is most likely looking for Education. The redirect receives page views almost every day. Mia Mahey (talk) 02:46, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per above, verb forms redirecting to the relevant noun should be kept. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 13:42, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep as seems reasonably useful. Alextejthompson (Ping me or leave a message on my talk page) 18:25, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wich[edit]

Wich → -wich town (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Having created Wich (disambiguation), I doubt that there is a primary topic of the term, and propose to move the disambiguation page over this redirect. BD2412 T 00:02, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: Judging by the relative unnotability compared to the common -wich suffix, the existing page being a redirect to -wich town and keeping the existing hatnote on that page is fine. Just add a note at the top of wich (disambiguation) stating the primary topic. Flemmish Nietzsche (talk) 07:35, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Templates and Modules[edit]

Template:Tentative title[edit]

Template:Tentative title (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Template of dubious necessity. The requested moves process, through which any discussions about page titles would be handled, already sticks a banner template announcing that a page move discussion is under way at the top of the article, so any page that has an RM discussion underway would already be tagged for that without needing this. And if you can't be bothered to initiate an RM discussion, then this template has no value on pages at all if there's no explanation provided of what the tagger's issue with the existing page title is -- which was exactly the case on the only page that this template was actually being used on (which I should also note that I found because this template was transcluding non-existent redlinked categories onto the page, which templates aren't allowed to do.)
So there's no need for this, because other templates already cover off the same purpose if the issue is properly addressed through standard processes, and the template has no value at all if the tagger is just drive-by shooting and can't be arsed to follow standard processes. Bearcat (talk) 15:00, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Miscellany[edit]

Deletion review[edit]

1996 Abakan Ilyushin Il-76 crash[edit]

Whilst not a contentious topic, I believe that the the non-admin closer closed the discussion with insufficient evidence and rationale. At first, the closer did not provide a rationale and upon asking for one [50], they stated "The noms contention that this was a "run of the mill event" is not accepted" [51]. Upon inquiring even further pointing out that I had cited multiple policy-based guidelines, they simply stated that they had nothing to else add. Whilst there were no votes supporting a delete, I believe that, either, at the very least, the discussion be relisted to provide a clearer consensus and be closed by a more experienced editor or admin, or the result be overturned as I believe that the closer did not correctly interpret the results. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 10:06, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Endorse There is unanimous consensus to keep. Skyshiftertalk 10:25, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Per WP:CLOSEAFD, Consensus is not based on a tally of votes, but on reasonable, logical, policy-based arguments. The strength of the arguments given depends more than the number of votes cast on either side. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 10:40, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. I closed this. There were no delete votes in this second AfD nor the first AfD which can be found here Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/RA-78804. Desertarun (talk) 10:38, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This is slightly misleading. Although there weren't any delete votes in the first AfD, there were merge votes. [1] Aviationwikiflight (talk) 10:44, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
And you ignored the first AfD result and renominated it for deletion again...The first AfD closed less than a month ago. Desertarun (talk) 10:49, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that that was my fault for renominating it as I didn't know that a renomination should normally take place after six months.

At the same time, you closing the first discussion as keep with four in favour (including a sock) vs three favouring a merge is contentious as both sides provided strong arguments. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 11:09, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Overturn This AFD was not properly closed and the rationale for closing is not valid. - UtherSRG (talk) 11:27, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Weak endorse. Firstly, renominating within a month of the previous Keep AfD puts the appellant on weak footing here. I believe them when they say it was an honest mistake, but in cases of rapid renomination of a substantially identical page, I think a closer may look at the views in the previous XfD, and determine consensus based on both (or all, if more than two) AfDs combined. This is the natural and most effective way to discourage the type of tendentious litigation we see in some perennially nominated pages. In our case, this would lead to a clear consensus to keep.

Secondly, while no policy forbids it, I find it in poor taste for the same closer, admin or not, to close two subsequent XfDs for the same page, especially in such rapid succession. I'm not saying Desertarun has any bias here, but the appearance of impartiality, and the opportunity to give another closer a chance to examine consensus, are also important. Looking at the second, appealed AfD by itself, I agree with the appellant that the Keep views are exceptionally weak, and do little to refute the nominator's P&G-based concern. I would advise the non-admin closer to either relist such marginal cases, or to leave them for an admin to close. Owen× ☎ 12:51, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Endorse. There was a clear consensus to keep. Everything was done correctly. The closer stated that the nominator's rationale was "not accepted" (by consensus), which is fine. This is not a BADNAC, as the non-admin closer has not demonstrated a potential conflict of interest, or lack of impartiality, the outcome was not a close call or likely to be controversial, the non-admin has a lot of experience editing Wikipedia generally and has had much previous participation in deletion discussions, and the result did not require action by an administrator. Maybe something about this close could have been better but NACs don't have to be absolutely fabulous to stand, discussions don't have to be fabulous for NAC to be applicable when they're entirely one-sided and can't be closed any other way, and DRV is not about technicalities and not about through-expermentally workshopping could-have-been optimal closing statements and sharing thoughts about what ideal closes by which preferred closers would lead to our satisfaction.—Alalch E. 13:09, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't understand how the given rationale is fine. Saying that the result depended on one of my arguments not being accepted doesn't exactly make sense. In the discussion, I provided multiple policy based guidelines demonstrating why the article should be deleted. But because one of my arguments which was that the event was a run-of-the-mill was not accepted means that my entire argument is now baseless? Aviationwikiflight (talk) 13:31, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
An AfD is not a formal debate. As consensus, not merely being right is needed to delete, your initiative to delete the article failed through a lack of consensus to do so. Since no one even !voted delete, but multiple people !voted keep, the outcome can not be "no consensus" and can only be "keep". Relisting would have been inappropriate as there was a normal level of participation and the comments were not "lacking arguments based on policy". An argument that the page is not WP:NOT, for example, is not an argument not based in policy in an AfD. An editor can ignore complaints that notability isn't met and say that the page is suitable for inclusion as being within scope, citing NOT, and that is a perfectly policy-based argument to keep. If you cite a guideline that says that events about "common, everyday, ordinary items" may not be notable, and someone says "no, this is not a common, everyday, ordinary item", that's a policy-based argument. Try with a more complete nomination next time that in addition to WP:LASTING also includes WP:INDEPTH and WP:GEOSCOPE, and explain why some sources may be unreliable and why those that are reliable lack in-depth coverage etc., and also explain how WP:GNG isn't met. —Alalch E. 14:08, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Consensus isn't determined based on the tally votes and by counting heads, but by looking at the strength of arguments and cited recorded consensus and on reasonable, logical, policy-based arguments.

I too can also ignore the fact that the article was not WP:NOT and cite guidelines that it fails. That too is a policy-based argument against a keep.

And just saying that the article should be kept because of the number of deaths is not a policy-based argument, nor is saying that an article should be kept because another one has less deaths. Arguing against someone saying that the article is not run-of-the-mill and demonstrating why it is run-of-the-mill is also a policy-based argument. If users do little to refute issues cited regarding policies and guidelines, where does that leave the result? Aviationwikiflight (talk) 14:41, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You said, I too can also ignore the fact that the article was not WP:NOT and cite guidelines that it fails. That too is a policy-based argument against a keep. That is correct, and indeed, no one here is claiming that your arguments are not based on policy or guidelines. The fact that no one refuted your argument does not, by itself, automatically turn your legitimate view into a supervote. Here at DRV, we often get appeals that essentially boil down to, "Everyone except me was wrong!". The problem with that is that even if true, that still leaves your opinion alone. We do not delete an article based on a single, contested opinion, except in the clear cases spelled out in WP:CSD. Owen× ☎ 14:56, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not trying to make my views equal to a supervote but the problem that I have is with the closing rationale since it is implying that the discussion was closed as keep because one of my arguments was not accepted even though there were plenty other of arguments. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 16:04, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The AfD was closed as a Keep because no one other than you suggested it not be kept. The fact that you're still arguing about it tells me you aren't clear on our basic principle of WP:CONSENSUS. Owen× ☎ 16:23, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Endorse per Alalch E. Perfectly fine NAC, entirely obvious consensus. Jclemens (talk) 16:13, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Endorse per Alalch E. No error in the close - also not a bad NAC. The nomination was based on WP:EVENT and Wikipedia:Run-of-the-mill. While WP:EVENT is a guideline, it is not, by itself an exclusion criteria - as a subject can still pass GNG and merit an article. WP:Run-of-the-mill is an essay. In this case, as GNG was not questioned. While passing GNG does not mean an article must be created, the question in an AFD is whether a stand-alone page should exist. Since the other participants all said that the subject was not an ordinary event (a policy-based argument), keep was the only appropriate outcome. --Enos733 (talk) 16:57, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Endorse completely normal AfD here, with complete consensus to keep. Furthermore I do not see any particular reason to delete which was ignored by the participants. SportingFlyer T·C 17:34, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Endorse as the correct reading of consensus to Keep. I would have !voted Keep on account of significant coverage of 23 lives lost, but DRV is not AFD round 3. Robert McClenon (talk) 20:37, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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